Thanks, Terran. I agree; I have many of the same reservations. I think workstation print templates will be a necessity if and when we decide to implement the angular circulation interfaces. I think a server-side fallback for a branch is a great idea, but we really can't lose that workstation-by-workstation customization.
John John Amundson (he/him/his) Library Applications Supervisor, C/W MARS, Inc. ------------------------------ [image: icon] [email protected] | [image: icon]www.cwmars.org [image: icon] 508-755-3323 x1 On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 4:44 PM Terran McCanna < [email protected]> wrote: > PINES is currently on 3.12 so we've only been using it for the Holds Pull > List so far. We had so many problems with it that we decided not to allow > libraries to customize their Holds Pull List and have had to enforce a > single template for everyone because we cannot maintain a potential 300 > templates. > > We also have big reservations about the upcoming circ interfaces using > them because our libraries have so many different needs. Particularly > difficult will be the libraries that use different templates within a > single branch - for example, different checkout templates on different > workstations at the same branch based on whether a checkout is at the desk, > through curbside pickup, or on a self-pickup shelf. > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 4:19 PM John Amundson via Evergreen-general < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm revitalizing this email thread from two years ago. >> >> CW MARS is preparing an upgrade from 3.7 to 3.14, and I'm finally >> starting to look over the new server-side print templates. We will mainly >> be using the template for the Holds Pull List, but as others mention, this >> interface is going to be used a lot more heavily as more circulation >> interfaces are ported to Angular. >> >> I can't seem to find any documentation on the interface, so I'm going to >> repeat Jennifer's question from two years ago: >> >> *Does anyone have tips, resources, or documentation about >> customizing templates via Admin -> Server Administration -> Print Templates >> that they'd be willing to share?* >> >> >> My immediate need is to add the item's status to the list now that >> statuses other than Available may show up on the pull list. So far I've >> gotten [% hold.cp_status %] to print the status id, but I can't get the >> name to print. Any recommendations? Does anyone know how the variables are >> structured? >> >> My deeper concern is that the entire interface is confusing and needs to >> be much more robust - or at least more in-depthly documented. I've filed a >> bug with my thoughts: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2092239 >> >> As it stands right now, I don't foresee us giving libraries permission to >> make their own edits to server-side templates. There are just too many ways >> for it to go wrong. For the libraries that have been using server-side >> templates for a while, how has it been going? >> >> Thanks! >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> John Amundson (he/him/his) >> Library Applications Supervisor, C/W MARS, Inc. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> [image: icon] [email protected] | [image: icon]www.cwmars.org >> >> [image: icon] 508-755-3323 x1 >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 11:52 AM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Terran, >>> >>> This is our first library to get a custom pull list template and we >>> just set it up for them yesterday so we haven't run into issues with >>> multiple versions of the template yet. This library is one that uses >>> their receipt printer for the pull list so the default template wasn't >>> working for them. >>> >>> Looking ahead to the circ receipts moving to this editor with the new >>> angular circ I agree that we're going to need a way to allow >>> workstation-level customizations. We currently haven't given >>> permissions for libraries to edit their own templates in the new Print >>> Templates but we're anticipating that we'll need to do that ahead of >>> our next upgrade in 2023. >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Terran McCanna <[email protected]>: >>> >>> > Are you having any issues saving multiple versions of the same >>> template at >>> > different org unit levels? (Like the default consortium one, then a >>> > different branch one?) I haven't tried this in a while, but I had >>> issues in >>> > 3.8 with saving various versions of the holds pull list. We also have >>> > issues where different workstations in the same branch need to print >>> the >>> > same receipt in different ways, which doesn't appear to be an option >>> at all >>> > with the new interface. A couple of bugs I've opened: >>> > >>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958875 >>> > >>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958683 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Terran McCanna, PINES Program Manager >>> > ------------------------------ >>> > >>> > Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia >>> > >>> > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341 >>> > >>> > (404) 235-7138 | [email protected] >>> > >>> > http://help.georgialibraries.org | [email protected] >>> > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/georgialibraries> >>> > <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> >>> > <https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> >>> > <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> >>> > >>> > Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org> for stories of >>> Georgia >>> > libraries making an impact in our communities. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 6:42 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Hello, >>> >> >>> >> Does anyone have tips, resources, or documentation about customizing >>> >> templates via Admin -> Server Administration -> Print Templates that >>> >> they'd be willing to share? >>> >> >>> >> We're running 3.9.0 and I'm trying to customize the new Hold Pull List >>> >> print out for a library. The changes I'm currently trying to make >>> are: >>> >> 1. having the author column only include the $a from the 100 field in >>> >> the MARC. Right now the contents of $d (author dates) are also >>> >> included which isn't needed on the pull list. >>> >> 2. showing just the last few digits of the item barcode. Our library >>> >> prints their pull list out on their receipt printer so we don't want >>> >> the full 14 digit barcode to display. (I can do this with fields in >>> >> the old workstation receipt templates.) >>> >> >>> >> I checked the official docs and the last few sets of release notes and >>> >> couldn't find anything. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> >>> >> Jennifer >>> >> -- >>> >> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >>> >> Co-op Support - Training Lead >>> >> BC Libraries Cooperative >>> >> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >>> >> Email:[email protected] >>> >> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >>> >> >>> >> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded >>> >> Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Evergreen-general mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >>> Co-op Support - Training Lead >>> BC Libraries Cooperative >>> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >>> Email:[email protected] >>> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >>> >>> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded >>> Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Evergreen-general mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >> >
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