Hi Irene, I went ahead and created a new bug Web Client: Cannot Import/Directly Enter JSON in UI <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1964522>
And, for others who are reading this thread and newer to serials, my alternative enumeration example was incomplete (multitasking). A better example would be if you have a serial such as v.4:no.1(2022:Jan.)=no.125 Thank You, Erica On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:01 PM Patrick, Irene <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you, Erica, that does help! I wasn’t having any problems with the > Enumeration part, just the Chronology, and since the Alternative Chronology > option wasn’t supplying anything that looks different from the regular > chronology, it was very confusing. I really am not sure when I would ever > need to use it. > > > > Sometimes there’s just no good way to get a working prediction using the > wizard, so being able to create a pattern code in a text editor outside of > Evergreen and paste it into the serials pattern to test it was extremely > helpful. Since we’re a State Library, we get so many publications with odd > patterns with our government documents and genealogy subscriptions that > looking at the MARC coding standards and manually creating patterns for > testing was the only way I got working predictions for a lot of titles. > And I have a document file listing the odd patterns I had created so that > if another title came in that used that pattern, we could just copy it and > paste it into Evergreen. I’m not quite sure how we will be able to deal > with that going forward. > > > > If you create a bug for that issue, let me know, and I’ll add heat! > > > > *Irene Patrick* > > Electronic Resources Librarian > > State Library of North Carolina > > NC Department of Natural and Cultural Resources > > 919.814.6788 | [email protected] > > > > 109 East Jones Street | 4640 Mail Service Center > > Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-4600 > > [image: A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] > <https://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/> > > Twitter <https://twitter.com/ForEverythingNC> | Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/ncghl/> | Instagram > <https://www.instagram.com/foreverythingnc/> | YouTube > <https://www.youtube.com/user/statelibrarync/> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/state-library-of-north-carolina> > > *Don’t wait to vaccinate. 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Send all suspicious email as an attachment to Report Spam. > <[email protected]> > > > > Hi Irene, > > > > *Does anyone know how the Alternative Chronology Captions is supposed to > work?* > > > > The alternative enumeration works like the regular enumeration option. > It's just meant to help record any instances of serials that require > fascicles or any other numbering schemes in addition to a regular scheme > of enumeration (example: *NGS Magazine *January - March 2022; Volume 48, > Number 1). The Serials module was built rather rigidly based on the LOC > 853-855 > - Captions and Pattern-General Information > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd853855.html__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94O8FA0A2E$> > > In the Enumeration Labels tab (corresponding to the LOC Enumeration > caption), the regular enumeration allows for up to 6 levels of enumeration, > while the Alternative allows for up to 2 levels. > > In the Chronology Display tab (corresponding to the LOC Chronology > caption), the regular chronology allows for up to 4 levels of chronology, > while the alternative chronology allows for 1 level. The Evergreen pattern > wizard is mirroring the LOC standards. > > > > *I will say that I also miss the capability of simply pasting in a raw > pattern code.* > > I agree with you. Sharing pattern codes and directly entering JSON was an > advantage in the Serials module. I thought that I already created a bug for > it, but I'm not seeing one. > > > > Does this help? > > > > Thank You, > > Erica > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:42 AM Patrick, Irene via Evergreen-catalogers < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I haven’t received any response to my question from Friday, so I thought I > would try just one more time, and copy the question to the cataloging list, > in case someone there has some input. Does anyone know how the Alternative > Chronology Captions is supposed to work? I did check the documentation > last week ( > https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/docs/latest/serials/B-serials_admin.html > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/docs/latest/serials/B-serials_admin.html__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94OzmqWjEP$>), > but it doesn’t describe what’s supposed to happen. Is this working the way > it is supposed to, or is there a bug? > > > > If it is working as designed, then I don’t know what it would be used > for. It doesn’t seem functional. > > > > *Irene Patrick* > > Electronic Resources Librarian > > State Library of North Carolina > > NC Department of Natural and Cultural Resources > > 919.814.6788 | [email protected] > > > > 109 East Jones Street | 4640 Mail Service Center > > Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-4600 > > [image: A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] > <https://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/> > > Twitter > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ForEverythingNC__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94O7-IA58Q$> > | Facebook > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/ncghl/__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94O7uVWiUb$> > | Instagram > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.instagram.com/foreverythingnc/__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94OzAatiMf$> > | > YouTube > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.youtube.com/user/statelibrarync/__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94OyTld163$> > | LinkedIn > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/company/state-library-of-north-carolina__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94O_NW3COQ$> > > *Don’t wait to vaccinate. 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My experience with creating patterns > in serials has been with XUL, but we’re now on the web interface (version > 3.7.2). I’ve run into an issue with the Chronology Captions while trying > to create a new pattern. > > > > The serial in hand uses traditional volume and number for enumeration, but > is using “1st Quarter”, “2nd Quarter”, etc. for the chronology, rather > than months or seasons. When I go to create a pattern and I get to the > Chronology Display, I tried checking “Use Alternative Chronology Captions”, > but that only gives me Level 1. There’s no option to get a second level > for the Alternative captions. If I click Add Level, it only adds a level > to “Use Chronology Captions”, not to the alternative chronology. And even > if it did add to the alternative chronology, would there be any way to add > a free text chronology? Under Alternative Chronology, Level 1 still gives > you only the standard options in a dropdown. > > > > If I uncheck the Use Chronology Captions box, while leaving the Use > Alternative Chronology Captions box checked, trying to get it to show only > the Alternative Option, that gets rid of the chronology option entirely, > and the section for the Alternative Chronology completely disappears. > > > > Is this a bug? I searched Launchpad, but couldn't find anything like this. > > > > I will say that I also miss the capability of simply pasting in a raw > pattern code. I used to copy shared codes, or simply create my own in > notepad and paste them into XUL. And I could test patterns that way until > I found one that worked. > > > > *Irene Patrick* > > Electronic Resources Librarian > > State Library of North Carolina > > NC Department of Natural and Cultural Resources > > 919.814.6788 | [email protected] > > > > 109 East Jones Street | 4640 Mail Service Center > > Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-4600 > > [image: A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] > <https://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/> > > Twitter > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ForEverythingNC__;!!HYmSToo!OrknqfZKHd4W25O7qilbxEXav1xGVuJfAZLoBSl07AY6e3iGNTpEq81XZ5ynS1CJ4NDp$> > | Facebook > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/ncghl/__;!!HYmSToo!OrknqfZKHd4W25O7qilbxEXav1xGVuJfAZLoBSl07AY6e3iGNTpEq81XZ5ynSy-Lt51Q$> > | Instagram > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.instagram.com/foreverythingnc/__;!!HYmSToo!OrknqfZKHd4W25O7qilbxEXav1xGVuJfAZLoBSl07AY6e3iGNTpEq81XZ5ynS8oNYMcY$> > | > YouTube > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.youtube.com/user/statelibrarync/__;!!HYmSToo!OrknqfZKHd4W25O7qilbxEXav1xGVuJfAZLoBSl07AY6e3iGNTpEq81XZ5ynS_QAJe6U$> > | LinkedIn > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/company/state-library-of-north-carolina__;!!HYmSToo!OrknqfZKHd4W25O7qilbxEXav1xGVuJfAZLoBSl07AY6e3iGNTpEq81XZ5ynSyJ_4hmX$> > > *Don’t wait to vaccinate. 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