Phil, Thanks for the unintentional support - that is exactly what the startup that I joined half a year ago is doing. If you want more info, send me a PM or look up Relyion Energy (We're in Fremont, CA) where we are repurposing 2nd life EV packs by stripping them down into their modules and then rebuilding BESS (Battery Energy Storage Systems) with those still serviceable batteries. Exciting stuff! Cor.
On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 11:08 AM (-Phil-) via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > The largest problem with using a repurposed EV pack for a home battery is > safety. None of that would be code-compliant, and if you ever have a > fire, you might find your homeowners insurance loath to pay out because of > your frankenstein project, no matter how much care went into it and how > safe it really was/is. > > A similar liability problem comes with any attempt to make some kind of a > product that allows export from an EV "unofficially". Even with a signed > waiver, nothing stops someone from suing me when Tesla suddenly refuses a > warranty claim because they found out what was happening. Worse; Tesla > could send out a software patch overnight suddenly rendering all products > useless, then some lawyer comes at me with a class-action. (I'm sure > there are Tesla employees monitoring this list!) > > No, I think this is an interesting curiosity, and something I might make > use of privately, but I don't think merits productization. Lawyers and > Tesla employees can put their keyboards away for now. > > I do believe that there is a market for repurposing end-of-(useful)-life EV > packs for backup and grid storage, but would probably need to be done at > commercial scale. It makes much more sense than grinding them up to > recover the materials. > > -Phil > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 10:42 AM Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > That warranty statement sound like a case of runaway lawyer syndrome. They > > put in language that isn't justifiable, necessary , or even reasonable just > > to provide a way to disallow warranty coverage if you do something they > > don't like. > > > > The way it's worded, even leaving your cellphone on charge while the car > > is parked would be a violation of the warranty. > > > > Aren't there legal protections against unreasonable terms in a warranty? > > > > Lee > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240629/0f125049/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
