That is not new. James Hanson told this to congress in the 80s. Al Gore made a documentary and everyone laughed. Still, I drive electric and have stopped flying for the most part sometimes for work I don’t have a choice. I’ll drive for most trips.
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 17, 2023, 2:58 AM, Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: Just a totally OT comment on this: I'm retired now, but I used to have several colleagues in climate research. (Basically, they are what a common person would call a climate scientist.) When I spoke with any of them privately, they all expressed the opinion that we have likely "broken the planet." That is; Even if we were to completely stop putting CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) into the air now, the processes we have set into motion will continue to _accelerate_ for decades to come. (Things are going to get _far_ worse in the the coming decades, even if we were to stop pumping CO2 into the air entirely now.) We are discovering knock-on processes daily that make matters worse and accelerate to worsening global warming and climate change. The planet has _never_ heated up so fast, so we have no history to look back on to predict what other accelerating knock-on effects will kick in. No one is optimistic. No one. The consensus is that it is gong to be very very bad. Having said this, not continuing to shovel coal into the boiler of the runaway locomotive is still the very best option and will help lead to the least gruesome future outcome as we speed towards the metaphorical cliff. Soapbox Mode = <OFF> Bill D. On 12/17/2023 10:55 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > Oil and gas should not be demonised in the medium-term, Elon Musk, the > founder of electric car maker Tesla (TSLA.O), said on Saturday, but he also > said it was important to reduce carbon emissions to preserve the planet. > > Musk, speaking at a right-wing political gathering organised by Italian > Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni's Brothers of Italy party, said: "Climate > change alarm is exaggerated in the short term," adding that the > environmental movement may have gone too far, causing people to lose faith > in the future. > > https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-gas-should-not-be-demonized-elon- > musk-says-2023-12-16/ > > or https://v.gd/n5ctOQ > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Elon Musk has lost his wife, his kids, his spaceship, and 40 billion > dollars. It's like some kind of country music that doesn't even > exist yet. > > -- John Carlsen > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20231217/35458236/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
