Just a totally OT comment on this:
I'm retired now, but I used to have several colleagues in climate
research. (Basically, they are what a common person would call a climate
scientist.) When I spoke with any of them privately, they all expressed
the opinion that we have likely "broken the planet." That is; Even if we
were to completely stop putting CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) into
the air now, the processes we have set into motion will continue to
_accelerate_ for decades to come. (Things are going to get _far_ worse
in the the coming decades, even if we were to stop pumping CO2 into the
air entirely now.)
We are discovering knock-on processes daily that make matters worse
and accelerate to worsening global warming and climate change. The
planet has _never_ heated up so fast, so we have no history to look back
on to predict what other accelerating knock-on effects will kick in. No
one is optimistic. No one. The consensus is that it is gong to be very
very bad.
Having said this, not continuing to shovel coal into the boiler of
the runaway locomotive is still the very best option and will help lead
to the least gruesome future outcome as we speed towards the
metaphorical cliff.
Soapbox Mode = <OFF>
Bill D.
On 12/17/2023 10:55 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
Oil and gas should not be demonised in the medium-term, Elon Musk, the
founder of electric car maker Tesla (TSLA.O), said on Saturday, but he also
said it was important to reduce carbon emissions to preserve the planet.
Musk, speaking at a right-wing political gathering organised by Italian
Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni's Brothers of Italy party, said: "Climate
change alarm is exaggerated in the short term," adding that the
environmental movement may have gone too far, causing people to lose faith
in the future.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-gas-should-not-be-demonized-elon-
musk-says-2023-12-16/
or https://v.gd/n5ctOQ
David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
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