Charge rate: I don't know the particulars and probably someone else on this list can answer precisely. But I think it's the battery chemistry combined with their earlier risk of battery fires. So, they intentionally slow down the charge rate.

The battery is 65kWh, I think. So 60% (25% to 85%) would be 39kWh. That took about 1.33 hours, meaning a rate of about 30kW. I was using a 150kW charger and the temperature was around 60F.

Peri

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From: "EV List Lackey via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Cc: "EV List Lackey" <evp...@drmm.net>
Sent: 07-Oct-23 09:37:00
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Bolt road trip

On 7 Oct 2023 at 4:16, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

 The rental agency expects the car to be returned with 80% charge. That
 was the real challenge.

Rental operations can't seem to shake the fuel-tank mindset.  When I rented
a Dacia Spring from LeClerc, a chain "superstore" here, they expected me to
return it "almost full."  Fortunately we have an EVSE here and a trip from
my house to there used only about 2% charge.

 The Bolt fails miserably, as I think most people know, at level 3
 charging.  It took about 1h20 to charge from about 25% to 85%. That is
 substantially slower than most other contemporary EVs.

I didn't know that, but then I'm not "most people."  :-)

What are the details?  Why is it slow?

Our Zoe is somewhat limited in the fast charging department with a max of
only 50kW for CCS. Renault's official reasoning for that is that "most
owners charge at home."

Fifty kW means about 45 minutes for 20-80%.  Faster would be nice, but we so
seldom charge on trips that it hardly matters.  And 45m is about right for a
snack and coffee/tea at a highway stop.

On the other hand, at 22kW, the Zoe's level 2 charging is faster than almost
everyone else's here, if 3-phase AC is available.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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