It seems to me if there is an adapter available for purchase, that would qualify Tesla Superchargers. I bought a Tesla Tap to take advantage of Tesla destination EVSE. CCS drivers could buy this and have ac or dc charging. https://www.ebay.com/itm/354835666670?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111314%26meid%3Dc1ad667158b04eb79d33fda7ba7b28ee%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D354835758942%26itm%3D354835666670%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuWithLambda85KnnRecallV1V4V6ItemNrtInQueryAndCassiniVisualRankerAndBertRecall&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A354835666670c1ad667158b04eb79d33fda7ba7b28ee%7Cenc%3AAQAIAAABQA2rugFlOq3qu1cLac%252F%252Fk6Vp0Oa0HaJIqoXKeIiOR%252BTUgsSvHaeyPxKYu6UqHqq7GaGyKVqHQnjeiiXcQpMGw2t3aB%252BssGfjtIWOBj8wExc7oYYP7xGMyQCrHDyDaSaWjB1CueI3A94n0yxXX5dx5gAU%252FT8Fo%252BhA4uBFp%252BOwvsmjMx9svf4%252B372fK2%252Fh1O6bxu3XXlcPikVngfjzVkKfN1lwJYO4DTP0c6sUG2XIHT8T1ZF%252FFEudHDvVkzR0g73ogbAWksoGWUYhm1zt%252F0G2dL4hl8V2wSq543sodOojwXnCYuf2c0C%252BJa530Edy9yIdIlvH1BMdtvgdl0yCCGVp1bdez1hD%252B03XGIvFqhUw2JkLeMVSMa7keDCDqXE%252Fwk3cmo52x29a4WsrQlzr%252Bcj8UmaXoa3muZU2BSJ5pn%252BqeS9u%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675 LR On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 01:01:47 PM PDT, ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org <ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org> wrote: Send EV mailing list submissions to ev@lists.evdl.org
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Electric H20 Ski Boats (that run more than 1/2 hour) (markehans...@gmail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:19:17 -0700 From: "EV@TucsonEV" <e...@tucsonev.com> To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: [EVDL] White House welcomes Tesla to take advantage of federal dollars for chargers Message-ID: <01a201d9a39b$5b2c5270$1184f750$@TucsonEV.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-tesla-chargers-available-feder al-dollars-long-they-include-ccs-2023-06-09/ I don't know how many of you caught this Reuters article, it seems that Tesla Superchargers are great for America as long as they include the U.S. charging standard connection, CCS, as well. Looks like the CCS consortium still has a great deal of influence of political influence. 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URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230620/dcce5dfe/attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:34:06 -0400 From: Jay Summet <j...@summet.com> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] White House welcomes Tesla to take advantage of federal dollars for chargers Message-ID: <271d63f1-b373-372e-1c05-dc3969ce1...@summet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 6/20/23 13:19, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: > https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-tesla-chargers-available-feder > al-dollars-long-they-include-ccs-2023-06-09/ > > > > I don't know how many of you caught this Reuters article, it seems that Tesla > Superchargers are great for America as long as they include the U.S. charging > standard connection, CCS, as well. > > > > Looks like the CCS consortium still has a great deal of influence of political > influence. > > My understanding is that the J1772 plug/standard and CSS standards are the "official" standards for the United States, developed by SAE with wide-spread industry participation, so I would expect them to be officially supported by any governmental subsidies, tax incentives, etc. https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j1772_201710/ It's fine for TESLA to market and promote a competing standard, but the government usually follows the guidance of the national academies, and large scale industry standards associations as opposed to those provided by a single company. So I would expect the SAE and other national standards groups to have more influence than any single company, as they typically represent a broad swath of the industry. Jay ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 15:30:17 -0400 From: <markehans...@gmail.com> To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: [EVDL] Electric H20 Ski Boats (that run more than 1/2 hour) Message-ID: <00b601d9a3ad$a5480310$efd80930$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Dan etc, I worked with Jerry Dycus back in 09' (he did the hull/boat) I did the electronics, see the E-Cat: http://www.evalbum.com/2749 . It had 10KWH LiFePO4 batteries (essentialy 1 gallon of gas equiv) But I couldn't water ski behind it (missed H20 skiing), so I sold in on Ebay to a guy running solar cabins on the upper Mississippi, needing an electric shuttle. It went about 30 miles at 7mph (hull speed mph= Sqr-root of Hull length X 1.3). On a planing hull (ski boat) efficiency is poor, best hope is a lightweight aluminum hull (have aluminum Starcraft 1200lbs 6x16 with Honda 60HP 13x13" pitch) That gets me up on a single ski. I thought it would be neat to make a electric ski boat but the one's in Europe were about $55K and went like a bat out of hell for only 30 minutes. The problem is even with my lightweight aluminum hull that weighs 1/3rd of a typical fiberglass 2.3mpg ski boat, mine got the Honda Marine efficiency award at 6.5mpg! Not something you'd want to commute to work on a daily basis (why electric cars make sense - but not electric speed boats). I have two 5 gallon tanks on board, can go about 65 miles, most of the day on 10 gallons. So, Dan - how *long* can you keep up 25-30mph with your electric boat? Is there a battery/motor/controller recipe that you can H20 ski all day like my current boat? Have a renewable energy day, Mark Mark E. Hanson 184 Vista Lane Fincastle, VA 24090 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell REEVA: community service RE & EV project club Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) UL Certified PV Installer My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh REEVA Demo: <http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0> http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 <https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd89 75b8d/signature> Fincastle Solar Weather Station Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 19:44:07 -0300 From: Dan Baker <vmd...@gmail.com <mailto:vmd...@gmail.com> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hyper 9 low-end performance problem Message-ID: <CAMJJmqt4nEVOmP6jQojCGTgMvmgoDAVbicXBBi1tz3=lruv...@mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAMJJmqt4nEVOmP6jQojCGTgMvmgoDAVbicXBBi1tz3=lruv...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey Rick I have a hyper-9 on my 20' pontoon boat and it certainly delivers full torque off the line. I am running a "boat" controller file from hyper9 and it is their stock HV 144v controller that can with it. I'm running it also at 160v nominal from a split chevy volt pack. I have a whole other hyper9 HV kit going in an MGA, interesting to see how it works in a car and hoping I don't have issues as you describe. I know the software that comes to setup the hyper9 has quite a few options so I could try and capture some screens if needed. Video of my 'toon's holeshot to 20mph. Full 2 seconds quicker than a 150hp four stroke on same boat: https://youtu.be/_VqtA0Yoksw Cheers Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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