The US system is a bit of a mess. I don’t know how many accounts I have so I am prepared to charge on the road, if I find a working charger. On the other hand, in Quebec province they have one system, Electric Circuit, and it is a really good system. I have four 2-car chargers within two blocks of my daughters place in Montreal and a good supply of fast and standard chargers in the rural areas.
-Steve > On Jun 4, 2023, at 2:16 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Right now, most of us can tolerate a poorly maintained charging > infrastructure. Charging at home means infrequent use of level 3 charging. > Recently I was in France and, talking to my cousins and other people, they > complain of the same thing. It may be slightly better there than US but it's > still a large hindrance for EV acceptance. > > Soon, though, if we expect urban dwellers without off street parking to buy > EVs, we're going to have to have a more reliable system. Like my cousins, two > of which have no off street parking, what are people to do if they can't > easily recharge once a week at a local level 3 station ? We can't assume the > charge-at-home model much longer. > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Tom Hudson via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: "Tom Hudson" <tdhud...@klanky.com>; "EV List Lackey" <evp...@drmm.net> > Sent: 04-Jun-23 09:38:25 > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14 > >> Watching a lot of YouTube EV content, non-Tesla charging infrastructure is a >> sad joke. Kyle Connor of "Out of Spec Motors" has been reporting on CCS >> charging, including Electrify America, and it's not a pretty picture. It's >> not uncommon for an EA charging station with four units to have three that >> are inoperable. For WEEKS. It's worse in winter, when their choice of >> hardware can't cope with low temperatures. The "All Electric Family", out in >> Nebraska, had to be towed on at least one occasion due to inoperable CCS >> chargers (including EA). There are numerous accounts of people having to >> stay at a hotel as a result of being unable to charge on non-Tesla >> hardware.I don't know what people expected from EA, an entity born of the >> Dieselgate scandal and VW's lies -- they cobbled together equipment that >> wasn't designed to be used in vehicle charging, wasn't intended for outdoor >> use with wide temperature variations, didn't set up adequate maintenance >> schedules and called it a day.Ford seems t > o >> have effectively called it quits with CCS after CEO Jim Farley experienced >> some of this on an EV trip with his family (and I'm sure, outcry from >> customers who have to deal with this fiasco). They're switching to Tesla's >> NACS solution -- so much easier to use (the charging plug is a fraction of >> the size and slides into the port with zero effort) and vastly more reliable >> -- in 5 years of owning our Model 3, I think I've only seen TWO chargers out >> of order in hundreds of SuperCharger visits.Ford is only the first domino to >> fall, I think. Other manufacturers will (if they're smart) undoubtedly >> decide to go with the solution that costs them less money and delivers >> better customer experience.As we all know, 99% of day-to-day charging is >> done at home and DC fast charging is primarily for road trips. But when you >> take a trip, the charging has to be there -- enough locations and enough >> FUNCTIONAL chargers per location -- to make it practical.If I didn't drive a >> Tesla, a road trip would be > a >> miserable exercise in "Range Anxiety" -- something my wife and I actually >> joke about on road trips, considering our first EV had less than 50 miles of >> range (just 17% of our Model 3's range) and no fast charging.-TomSent from >> my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230604/5450a603/attachment.htm> >> _______________________________________________ >> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >> HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
