Things are changing fast in this area.On 5/25/2023 the Ford Motor Company tweeted "Coming soon: More locations to charge your Ford® electric vehicle. Thousands of them." They show a picture of a Tesla Supercharger with a Ford Lightning behind it in the background.
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 05:17:00 AM PDT, EV List Lackey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: On 25 May 2023 at 7:39, Danny Ames via EV wrote: > Tesla today is the worlds only Exxon Chevron BP Petroleum Mobil oil for > EV car recharging. Except that you can fill up any ICEV at any BP or Chevron or Mobil or Exxon station, if you can stomach trading with those disreputable companies. :-( I guess Tesla is talking about opening their existing US stations to other EVs, but I don't know the status of that move. Here in France I could only charge our non-Tesla EV at 16 (12%) of Tesla's stations. As I see it, Tesla stations are still effectively for Teslas only. So in my view, Tesla charging isn't at all like Exxon, Chevron, Mobil, or BP. It's more like what we would have had in the US if our lawmakers a century ago had had less wisdom, and had let the automobile manufacturers build filling stations exclusively for their cars. Tesla also seems quite US-focused. I don't think that this is their best strategy because IMO US EVs have a hazy future, but who am I to say? EVs have a bright outlook in the EU, but Tesla were relative latecomers here. Until the M3 arrived, Tesla sales in most of the EU were negligible, and Tesla hasn't exactly been hyperactive in building charging stations here. Today France has over 82,000 public EV charging stations operated by various enterprises. Just now I checked the supercharger list for France on Tesla's website. They listed 129 stations. That amounts to only 0.16%. In sum, I don't agree that Tesla charging is anything at all like an international petroleum corporation's filling stations. ----- As a sidebar, here are the top 5 EVs for 2022 sales in France, along with their battery capacities and current prices (before deducting the government's up-to-5000-euro eco bonus). Make-Model Sales-2022 Battery Price-2023 Peugeot E208 19,220 (52kwh, 36,000 euros) Dacia Spring 18,326 (25kwh, 22,000 euros) Tesla 3 16,754 (60 kwh, 42,00 euros) Renault Megane E-tech 15,580 (62 kwh, 42,000 euros) Fiat 500E 15,163 (24kwh, 30,000 euros; 42 kwh, 34,000 euros) David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Too many people make it their business to make their business things that are none of their business. -- Lolapin = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230525/17b8bbd6/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/