Your question is a good one, though unclear.

*Which* people?  Are you asking about the advantage to a consumer? A 
manufacturer? A policy maker?

Your “tons of disadvantages” can also be applied to BEVs or. At simply be not 
accurate.

Higher cost to build? Well, yeah. But don’t BEVs cost more to build, too, than 
an ICE? Go back a few years ago, when battery costs were so much higher, even 
more so. The look at the cost differentials when the first modern ones came 
out, and it was early in the development cycle. Remember the first Priuses? It 
took years for the first profit, and then became California’s top-selling car. 
Long term is the cost higher? And if it is, what’s the benefit (and advantages)?

Higher cost to operate. For the consumer? Really? No fuel cost (for three 
years, at least). I understand that maybe it’s more complicated than that, but 
just don’t put a zero on the cost of charging. Maintenance cost? Maybe higher, 
I don’t know.

Lower efficiency. Lower efficiency of what, and to whom? 

No existing infrastructure. Again,  this all depends. If you have access to a 
station and 5 minutes to fill every 300 miles or so, that’s plenty . The 
problem is that right NOW, everyone doesn’t have that.  But that’s the same on 
the BEV side, though depending on the use, *can* be less of an issue because of 
home charging. I say “can” because we are needing to subsidize non-residential 
charging to the tune of billions, so apparently it’s essential (or we are 
wasting money). Perhaps that is the case because, unless most of us here that 
think that residential charging could be sufficient for most, the California 
Energy Commission thinks differently. Their surveys have caused them to 
conclude that the biggest barrier for people buying BEVs is “lack of 
infrastructure.” On both the BEV and FCEV side that’s just a matter of time 
getting the infrastructure in. But guess what?  At scale, infrastructure for 
FCEVs will be cheaper than BEVs, at least according to a McKinsey study, and I 
believe the U.S. Dept. of Energy. Hence their “H2 at Scale” initiative. I’ve 
seen some work that indicates that even today, it’s cheaper.

I won’t weigh in with my list of advantages of FCEVs, but will enjoy seeing the 
lists of others in answer to your question.


- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Peter VanDerWal via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> What, exactly, do people see as the advantage(s) of a FCEV over a BEV?
> 
> There are tons of disadvantages, higher cost to build, higher cost to 
> operate, lower efficiency, no existing infrastructure, etc.; so what is the 
> big advantage that would make them worth while?
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