Let me further put this back on topic. The automation of the ports is all about electrification with remote controlled EVs and other equipment. Efficiency and throughout is increased.
- Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Apr 10, 2021, at 7:05 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, now really off topic :) > > I don't have a preference on whether a human or not delivers packages. I do > respect that some people like that kind of job, and so I support their rights > to a quality work environment. > > But, long term, we will continue to mechanize (robotize) more and more kinds > of jobs. You can argue that we should protect jobs but there are better ways > to handle this kind of change. Going back to the early 1800s, automatic looms > were the first large scale automation of the industrial revolution. Many, > many people were put out of jobs and governments did little or nothing to > help them. However, no one wanted to go back to hand woven fabric because the > price of fabric went down drastically and even the poor were able to afford > more textile products. > > In the relatively near future, we will go through another change where all > driving jobs will be gone, probably most stocking and retailing jobs will be > minimized, and many other kinds of jobs. For the overall economy, that's a > good thing. For those who lose their jobs, it's terrible. Without > intervention, we'll devolve into a society of royalty (e.g. tech workers) and > serfs (e.g. unemployed) with a huge division in quality of life. We can > politically balance that out so that everyone has some work to do (not full > time) and ample money to live. If we do, most everyone will have more free > time and have a better lifestyle than today. And that free time can be used > in innovative ways, such as we do today on EVDL to help push a new technology > (see I worked it back on topic :) > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "EVDL Administrator via EV" <[email protected]> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Cc: "EVDL Administrator" <[email protected]> > Sent: 09-Apr-21 11:47:07 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: large drone ? > >> This thread is mostly off topic. However, there are a couple of critical >> points that everyone posting so far seems to be missing. >> >> I want Amazon, UPS, Fedex, and ESPECIALLY USPS to convert their delivery >> fleets to EVs. >> >> But I want HUMANS driving them. I want HUMANS delivering my packages to my >> door. And I want those humans to be treated decently and humanely in their >> jobs. For goodness sake let's at least give them a reasonable number of >> bathroom breaks. >> >> Humans can make judgements. Machines can only do what they're programmed to >> do. >> >> Machines also can't buy stuff to keep a consumer economy moving forward. >> The more people you put out of work by turning their jobs over to machines, >> the fewer there are to spend money. When does it stop? When all the Amazon >> vans are automated? When UPS and Fedex are too? When all the OTR trucks >> are automated? When your job is automated? >> >> As the old song says, the fact that you CAN doesn't mean that you SHOULD. >> >> But by all means, put those human drivers in ELECTRIC delivery vehicles. >> >> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey >> > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
