I can't find the text you found, but I did find this, on the Press page:

QuantumScape Releases Performance Data for its Solid-State Battery Technology
12/08/2020
...
QuantumScape’s newly-released results, based on testing of single layer battery cells, show its solid-state separators are capable of working at very high rates of power ... The tested cells were large-area single-layer pouch cells in the target commercial form factor with zero excess lithium on the anode and thick cathodes (>3mAh/cm2), running at rates of one-hour charge and discharge (1C charge and 1C discharge) at 30 degrees Celsius. These tests demonstrated robust performance of these single layer pouch cells even at these high rates, resulting in retained capacity of greater than 80% after 800 cycles (demonstrating high columbic efficiency of greater than 99.97%).

I hope their press release is genuine and not snake oil.

Peri


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From: "Glenn Brooks via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Glenn Brooks" <[email protected]>
Sent: 14-Dec-20 9:15:32 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20201214 through 20201220

Iam having a hard time with the QuantumScape story line.  If you look closely 
at their documentation - e.g. read the really small fine print, buried deep at 
the end of their corporate history page, they say they have no prototype for 
the solid state battery they “will manufacture”.  And that they are still 
trying to develop the revolutionary new, battery membrane that will enable all 
this to work.  When and if they are successful, they need two years to build a 
prototype facility to test the design, then another four to five years to 
enlarge the plant  to actually start producing and selling commercial 
quantities.

So 5-7 years away from actually selling anything. IF they can discover the 
revolutionary new battery membrane to make all this work.

And They never include these key business metrics when they hype their progress.

Sounds like something akin to the old time snake oil salesmen selling lush 
Western farmland  out beyond Oklahoma.  but turns out they were really talking 
about the Sonoran desert.

Am I missing something in their pitch?

Glenn B.

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 On Dec 14, 2020, at 12:05 AM, ev ln via EV <[email protected]> wrote:


http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-vw-pr-QuantumScape-li-ion-goes-farther-charges-faster-tp4699514.html
 EVLN: (vw-pr) QuantumScape li-ion> goes farther &charges faster
 VW-backed QuantumScape says its solid-state batteries will enable EVs to 
travel farther and charge faster
 Dec 8, 2020 ... Most EV companies use “wet” lithium-ion batteries, which use 
liquid electrolytes ... and contain flammable material that can be hazardous in 
the event of a crash. ... electric vehicles that can travel 80 percent further 
... A potential game-changer for EVs ...
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/68476816/QuantumScape_Lab.0.jpg

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 EVLN: We Can't Take Toyota's 'The Future of EVs' Word
 Toyota will unveil a first all-electric vehicle in 2021 ...
 Toyota says it will be the first of six electric vehicles to come from the 
automaker. Speculation is that it is the same model the manufacturer presented 
in the ...
 ...
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/12/13/we-cant-take-toyotas-word-for-it-on-future-bevs/
 We Can't Take Toyota's Word For It On Future BEVs

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 EVLN: Proterra li-ion production line creates LA-CA jobs
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announced the opening of a new battery production line co-located in its EV bus 
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Proterra’s industry-leading battery packs featuring new, next generation cells 
&will create dozens of new jobs in Los Angeles County ...
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 EVLN: Volvo sez EVs struggle @hi-speeds> tall bodies are a drag
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 EVLN: Tesla-X fatal wall-crash &fire @ .kr apartment lot
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 December 11, 2020  Reuters  The Model X smashed into the wall and caught fire 
in the parking lot of a Seoul apartment building late on Wednesday, police 
said. It took about an hour to put out the fire ... is also under investigation 
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 EVLN: Boxy Bollinger e-trucks> a more spacious frunk
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 December 11, 2020 ... still characterized by a boxy, function-over-form design 
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opening front panel grew wider, the headlights gained standard bezels, and the 
air dam moved to the front bumper ...
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 EVLN: Drive an on-demand EV for under $1,700/mo
 ... Buy An Electric Car For Christmas Until You Have Read This
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 EVLN: carwow.co.uk &Vauxhall made the switch to EVs easier
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than 1m viewers
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bar for branded content campaigns, with genuinely impressive quantifiable 
results ...
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 EVLN: Kama-1 .ru EV has St_Petersburg DNA> fights .cn EV flood fears
 Kama-1 electric car from KAMAZ has St. Petersburg's DNA, and nothing in common 
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 14.12.2020 ... 'we must hit the 'window of opportunities' and introduce 
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...
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 EVLN: Arctic Circle tests4 BMW iX EV
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the edge of the Arctic Circle ...
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 EVLN: Compare Mach-E & Tesla-Y EVs
 How Do The Tesla Model Y & Ford Mustang Mach-E Compare?
 December 13, 2020 ... highly-anticipated Mustang Mach-E currently in 
production and slated to begin deliveries this month ...
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https://media2.govtech.com/images/snowblade-2.jpg

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 Dec. 10, 2020 ... Tesla hasn't had the smoothest road to construction in 
Berlin as it preps for a new Gigafactory in Germany, and now hibernating snakes 
... Reptiles having their annual nap are the latest roadblock to Tesla's 
progress in Berlin, but a local court said the carmaker can carry on ...
https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/snake_thumb_PA_Images_-1048x654.jpg

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