Iam having a hard time with the QuantumScape story line. If you look closely at their documentation - e.g. read the really small fine print, buried deep at the end of their corporate history page, they say they have no prototype for the solid state battery they “will manufacture”. And that they are still trying to develop the revolutionary new, battery membrane that will enable all this to work. When and if they are successful, they need two years to build a prototype facility to test the design, then another four to five years to enlarge the plant to actually start producing and selling commercial quantities.
So 5-7 years away from actually selling anything. IF they can discover the revolutionary new battery membrane to make all this work. And They never include these key business metrics when they hype their progress. Sounds like something akin to the old time snake oil salesmen selling lush Western farmland out beyond Oklahoma. but turns out they were really talking about the Sonoran desert. Am I missing something in their pitch? Glenn B. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 14, 2020, at 12:05 AM, ev ln via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-vw-pr-QuantumScape-li-ion-goes-farther-charges-faster-tp4699514.html > EVLN: (vw-pr) QuantumScape li-ion> goes farther &charges faster > VW-backed QuantumScape says its solid-state batteries will enable EVs to > travel farther and charge faster > Dec 8, 2020 ... Most EV companies use “wet” lithium-ion batteries, which use > liquid electrolytes ... and contain flammable material that can be hazardous > in the event of a crash. ... electric vehicles that can travel 80 percent > further ... A potential game-changer for EVs ... > https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/68476816/QuantumScape_Lab.0.jpg > > + (EVSE warning: Covid-lockdown @Lake_Tahoe-CA) > > + (Sun eruption> disrupts power grids) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-We-Can-t-Take-Toyota-s-The-Future-of-EVs-Word-tp4699515.html > EVLN: We Can't Take Toyota's 'The Future of EVs' Word > Toyota will unveil a first all-electric vehicle in 2021 ... > Toyota says it will be the first of six electric vehicles to come from the > automaker. Speculation is that it is the same model the manufacturer > presented in the ... > ... > https://cleantechnica.com/2020/12/13/we-cant-take-toyotas-word-for-it-on-future-bevs/ > We Can't Take Toyota's Word For It On Future BEVs > > + (TMC fiercely pushing replacement-part-profitable fcvs) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Proterra-li-ion-production-line-creates-LA-CA-jobs-tp4699516.html > EVLN: Proterra li-ion production line creates LA-CA jobs > Next-generation Proterra EV battery manufacturing facility opens in Los > Angeles County > December 10, 2020 ... Proterra ... heavy-duty electric transportation, today > announced the opening of a new battery production line co-located in its EV > bus manufacturing facility in Los Angeles County Proterra ... will > manufacture Proterra’s industry-leading battery packs featuring new, next > generation cells &will create dozens of new jobs in Los Angeles County ... > https://www.proterra.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Proterra-Battery-Manufacturing-Facility-Los-Angeles-1.jpg > > + (.il nEV for elderly @Dubai show) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Volvo-sez-EVs-struggle-hi-speeds-tall-bodies-are-a-drag-tp4699517.html > EVLN: Volvo sez EVs struggle @hi-speeds> tall bodies are a drag > Volvo Says Design Of Electric Cars Must Change > 2020-12-12 These body styles are more practical, but due to their tall > stature, they experience a lot more drag at highway speeds than a lower > vehicle like a sedan. Thus, electric SUVs tend to drain their batteries > quicker at speed as wind resistance forces the electric motors to work harder > ... > https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/840x560/786000/100/786154.jpg > > + (.ch Carlsberg’s brewery adds Renault delivery e-Truck) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-X-fatal-wall-crash-fire-kr-apartment-lot-tp4699518.html > EVLN: Tesla-X fatal wall-crash &fire @ .kr apartment lot > South Korea investigates fatal crash of Tesla Model X > December 11, 2020 Reuters The Model X smashed into the wall and caught fire > in the parking lot of a Seoul apartment building late on Wednesday, police > said. It took about an hour to put out the fire ... is also under > investigation by South Korea's transport ministry over its autopilot > functions ... > > + (vw-pr> The what-me-worry of charging) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Boxy-Bollinger-e-trucks-a-more-spacious-frunk-tp4699519.html > EVLN: Boxy Bollinger e-trucks> a more spacious frunk > Bollinger shows the production-bound versions of the B1 and the B2 > December 11, 2020 ... still characterized by a boxy, function-over-form > design that borrows styling cues from the original Land Rover Defender ... > minor differences such as a higher belt line for a more spacious frunk and a > more rugged appearance ... improvements in the company's thermal management > technology made the vents around the headlights no longer necessary ... the > opening front panel grew wider, the headlights gained standard bezels, and > the air dam moved to the front bumper ... > https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2020/12/11052403/bollinger-production-intent-design-7.jpg > > + (E.Leclerc hypermarkets Renting Out 4,000 .fr EVs) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Drive-an-on-demand-EV-for-under-1-700-mo-tp4699520.html > EVLN: Drive an on-demand EV for under $1,700/mo > ... Buy An Electric Car For Christmas Until You Have Read This > December 14, 2020 ... EV subscription through Washington, DC-based Steer, > backed by utility ... Exelon and recently acquired ... tech startup, > Facedrive ... a transportation revolution … including the way we view car > ownership ... Forward-Looking Statements ... > https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/iaZRgJGVLOuT1.PDI0xvEA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/oilprice.com/7f4145dd5aa31bcb97b5f26fe91b5b8a > > + (50% .ca EVSE rebates up to $700) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-carwow-co-uk-Vauxhall-made-the-switch-to-EVs-easier-tp4699521.html > EVLN: carwow.co.uk &Vauxhall made the switch to EVs easier > How carwow and Vauxhall made the switch to electric vehicles easier for more > than 1m viewers > 10 December 2020 ... particularly so in the newly-cluttered marketplace of > electric vehicle (EV) ... the success of its recent campaign with ... the > Corsa-e, the electric version of the UK’s second best-selling car, raised the > bar for branded content campaigns, with genuinely impressive quantifiable > results ... > https://youtu.be/q8jiYkKO8hc > > + (50% tax on hi-polluting cars> 2accelerate EV transition) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Kama-1-ru-EV-has-St-Petersburg-DNA-fights-cn-EV-flood-fears-tp4699522.html > EVLN: Kama-1 .ru EV has St_Petersburg DNA> fights .cn EV flood fears > Kama-1 electric car from KAMAZ has St. Petersburg's DNA, and nothing in > common with Kama Oka > 14.12.2020 ... 'we must hit the 'window of opportunities' and introduce > domestic urban electric car, otherwise later we will be 'flooded' with > Chinese and European electric cars ... China today offered to sell the > project right here — we are ready to start production in six months' ... > https://realnoevremya.com/uploads/articles/4d/00/6621dbc8b337aab9.jpg > > + (Cheng-shi/grey-panda 4whl delivery .cn EVs) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Insertable-electric-zerolabs-com-chassis-for-classic-ice-tp4699523.html > EVLN: Insertable electric zerolabs.com chassis for classic ice > This company has made an insertable electric chassis for classic cars > December 13, 2020 ... California-based electric car start-up ZeroLabs has > just launched a new electric vehicle (EV) platform that can be inserted > underneath classic cars to give them a modern electrified powertrain in a > matter of days ... > https://media.caradvice.com.au/image/private/c_fill,q_auto,f_auto,w_800,ar_16:9/mwvlsteoa213kasqoft2.jpg > > + (Arrival EVs creates .us jobs @Charlotte-NC) > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Arctic-Circle-tests4-BMW-iX-EV-tp4699524.html > EVLN: Arctic Circle tests4 BMW iX EV > BMW takes its iX electric car close to Arctic Circle for extreme tests > 11 Dec 2020 ... BMW ... taken its iX to one of the coldest places on Earth - > the edge of the Arctic Circle ... > https://images.hindustantimes.com/auto/img/2020/12/11/600x338/BMW_ix_1607658851538_1607658863548.jpg > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Compare-Mach-E-Tesla-Y-EVs-tp4699525.html > EVLN: Compare Mach-E & Tesla-Y EVs > How Do The Tesla Model Y & Ford Mustang Mach-E Compare? > December 13, 2020 ... highly-anticipated Mustang Mach-E currently in > production and slated to begin deliveries this month ... > https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBWWQs1.img > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-We-re-fascinated-by-the-prospect-of-flying-cars-sez-Gen-Heath-er-P-tp4699526.html > EVLN: "We're fascinated by the prospect of flying cars" sez Gen. Heather.P > Ohio Site Hopes to Be Crucial to Development of Flying Cars > December 11, 2020 ... 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