Me, neither. I'm just trying to figure out how they came up with their
incredulous claim !
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 04-Jun-20 11:02:12 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] (offt) h2 won’t overtake EVs> hampered by science &
CO2 lies
I prefer not to source *either* from natural gas.
- Mark
Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
On Jun 4, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
I wonder how fuels cells would compare to EVs if you compared sourcing
hydrogen from natural gas to generating electricity from natural gas. That is,
show the loss scenarios like this:
natural gas well > refine to hydrogen > compress & transport > fuel cell > EV
drive train
natural gas well > generate electricity > transmission > battery charge &
discharge > EV drive train
It might be that scenario that the Canadian consortium was imagining. Still,
it seems unlikely that the fuel cell scenario would be more efficient, but it
would be closer.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
Sent: 04-Jun-20 9:34:47 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] (offt) h2 won’t overtake EVs> hampered by science & CO2
lies
That’s a great point.
Not taking away from the point:
- I’m not sure that your numbers are not old.
- Given the demand for non-household EVSE, people are charging using the grid
mix no matter what they use at home.
- as the mix of renewables to fossils on the grid change, most will be
charging when fossil resources are used in greater percentages. This will
change both diurnally and seasonally.
- As BEVs become more popular, I think that percentage of those buying energy
cleaner than the grid will drop to levels closer to the grid mix.
Again, your point is good, but the overall numbers I don’t think are as high
as you think. But I have no data on this.
- Mark
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