To clarify, it’s really only two powertrains. I think that the BEV and FCEV are both the same electric powertrains.
- Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:22 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On 11 Mar 2020 at 11:41, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > >> Three cars on the same platform with power trains that match three different >> duty cycles. > > A double or even triple powertrain strategy does make sense from that > perspective, or at least it probably did when the Clarity was introduced. > And the Clarity looks like a rather nice car, if you like midsize sedans. > > I also agree with you that drivers usually over-perceive their need for > range, but the fact remains that (alas) perception might as well be reality. > > However, I finally found a price for the 2019 Clarity EV - $36,620. Today, > to be blunt, who pays that kind of money for a 135km EV? The PH gas version > was and is only $33,400, and has a 75km EV range. > > No wonder the Clarity EV didn't sell. If Honda couldn't or wouldn't make it > range-competitive, then it was probably time to put it out of its misery. > > Besides, with rapidly expanding EV range across the board, I see a > diminishing business case for PHs of all types, regardless of fuel. > > Let me give you an example of what I mean. Today in France, Europe's > largest nation, you can buy a supermini EV with a real world range of 350km > for less than $29,000 out the dealer's door - under $20,000, if you're > willing to lease the battery. Meanwhile, the major French autoroutes now > have EV charging at nearly all rest stops that also have filling stations. > Twenty-two kw AC charging is widely available. They're rapidly being fitted > for 50kw Chademo and CCS DC charging. > > Right now, you can easily drive that car from Paris to Toulouse or > Montpelier with two 50kw charging stops of 40-50 minutes each. With care and > a light foot, you could probably do it with one stop, but I wouldn't want to > risk it. > > I don't know about you, but most of my travel rest stops tend to be around > 25 minutes anyway. Give me another 20 minutes to kill, and I'll just add a > coffee and a snack. (Oops, better watch those calories. :-) > > From what I can see, most other major EU nations are similar in terms of > charging points, and they're smaller than France, so trip distances will be > even shorter. At least in Europe, who really needs a plug hybrid? > > I don't know whether that's true in the USA. But again being blunt, except > for Tesla, the US is not really where the future of transportation is being > written. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
