Not surprising. But also not surprising that they would give a positive
spin on something that would fail on its own. You've said as much: "give
a level playing field". We give handicaps to those who can't compete on
their own in order to have a more balanced match. Hydrogen for cars
can't stand on it's own. The infrastructure is more expensive than for
EVs, the storage of hydrogen takes more space, the production of
hydrogen costs too much, ...
It's one thing to provide incentives and subsidies to help ease startup
risks. It's another to "level the playing field."
Peri
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Sent: 02-Dec-19 8:46:34 AM
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I’m glad that you noticed that, and hope that you noticed that no “big oil”
companies are members.
That should give you a hint of the accuracy of brucep’s frequent railing about
hydrogen and big oil.
The members shouldn’t be surprising, exactly what you would expect from a
business council. These are the companies making the clean air solutions
positions. You will likely find something similar for a BEV group.
- Mark
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On Dec 2, 2019, at 7:38 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
And, look who are the members:
https://www.californiahydrogen.org/aboutus/chbc-members/
- compressed gas companies
- auto companies
- Hydrogen companies
- Fuel cell & fittngs companies
- Various energy companies
....
Peri
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Sent: 01-Dec-19 11:39:18 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Fw: [NEVs] California’s Clean Vehicle Rebate
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https://efiling.energy.ca.gov/GetDocument.aspx?tn=230880&DocumentContentId=62522
Worth reading re industry and hydrogen
On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 7:11 AM Lawrence Rhodes [email protected]
[GGEVA] <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree government funding of hydrogen as a fuel is a waste of money.
Sadly, it's always taxpayer money, because the oil and gas industry
knows the idea is a loser, so won't pay to develop the technology or
infrastructure itself. I think that could be the basis of a key
argument: if hydrogen fuelling is such a great idea, why isn't the
'energy' industry paying to build it out themselves? Why is government
assistance appropriate for this massively expensive build? They didn't
need government assistance to build gas stations.
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