Very interesting situation. We may see a lot more of this. (And, it's much harder to imagine such support from the BEV side, since electricity is generated from such a diaspora.)

I'm curious, Willie, when meeting one-on-one with people, did you ever have the chance to breach the question of where the hydrogen comes from ? Some people, once engaged in a question, will at least listen.

Peri

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.


I offer this anecdote that I deem relevant.

Driving my then new Model S in about 2014, I was visiting some cousins near 
Golden/Denver.  At the time, the Texas-Colorado SuperCharger route was up through 
Wichita; before Trinidad opened.  One cousin was a recently retired high school teacher 
that still had close connections with her old school.  She wanted to do some EV promotion 
at the school and show me one of the school projects.  The project was a one off hydrogen 
single seat open wheel "race" car following some formula.  The car was on 
semi-permanent display inside the school.  I eventually learned that it was part of a 
Shell sponsored hydrogen promotion effort.  Zero emissions race series.  Fuel of the 
future.  That kind of thing. Much of the school was enthusiastic about the project and 
almost completely unaware of the issues of practical hydrogen use.  Or that Shell was 
trying to maintain control of vehicle fueling.   I would say it was highly successful in 
giving hydrogen a wide and favorable local audience.  Probably t
housands of people were left with a favorable view of hydrogen.  Maybe 10s of 
thousands.  Maybe more.  I think the car had a battery buffer.  I asked the 
source of fuel.  It was purchased or given in little pressurized metal flasks.  
Some where in the range of 1 quart to 1 gallon.  I believe Shell supplied car 
building kits and the schools were left mostly with chassis work.

That was my first encounter with rather dishonest hydrogen promotion at a local 
level.  I asked pointed questions but did not make any enemies. I fear I also 
failed to sway any opinions.  I did give a lot of Tesla rides/demos.  Maybe 
eventually sold a few Teslas.
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