Thank you for saying something.

We get a lot of good stories, many that I pass on to others, but recently we’ve 
been getting these “dog bites man” stories.

- Mark

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> On Jan 24, 2019, at 8:46 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm tired of seeing all these reports about Tesla accidents. Yes, it's sad to 
> hear 
> about people being hurt, but it really is nothing more than a car accident 
> story 
> and I really see no reason to have them part of our 'newsfeed'.
> 
> Rush Dougherty
> Tucson AZ 85719
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of brucedp5 via EV
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:16 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: brucedp5
>> Subject: [EVDL] (more) EVcrash: Speeding-teen split Tesla-X in-half &on-fire
>> Rindge-NH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> % NH media slow to provide details on weeks old item %
>> 
>> [ref
>> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVcrash-Speeding-
>> teen-split-Tesla-X-in-half-on-fire-Rindge-NH-tp4692387.html
>> EVcrash: Speeding-teen split Tesla-X in-half &on-fire Rindge-NH Neighbors
>> helped save lives after fiery Tesla X crash in Rindge Dec 31, 2018 ]
>> 
>> https://www.concordmonitor.com/tesla-crash-new-ipswich-fatal-22971318
>> New Ipswich teen's death is state's first fatality involving an electric car 
>> January
>> 24, 2019  DAVID BROOKS
>> 
>> [images
>> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/0140e826-b217-4987-904d-
>> 566992b1087f/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph01
>> 19-year-old New Ipswich girl was killed following a fiery crash on Perry 
>> Road in
>> Rindge last month involving a Tesla Model X electric car  / Courtesy
>> 
>> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/c18dd992-229d-4573-adf2-
>> 1f8c81f2b445/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph02
>> Three local teens were seriously injured in a fiery crash on Perry Road in 
>> Rindge
>> Wednesday night
>> 
>> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/6cf10f1a-978b-4fed-b94f-
>> c7703a14f534/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph03
>> A 2017 Tesla Model X was split in two and caught on fire after a crash on 
>> Perry
>> Road in Rindge Wednesday night  / Michelle Barnhart
>> 
>> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/d416f86a-4fc8-4bad-b274-
>> 76e7045aed70/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph04
>> A 2017 Tesla Model X was split in two and caught on fire after a crash on 
>> Perry
>> Road in Rindge Wednesday night
>> 
>> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/bb2a8292-9d4e-4030-9cbd-
>> 0958b0f18107/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph05
>> ]
>> 
>> The death of a woman who was burned when the Tesla Model X in which she
>> was riding hit a tree is the first fatal accident involving an electric car 
>> in 
>> New
>> Hampshire, raising the issue of emergency services' preparation for dealing 
>> with
>> this new technology.
>> 
>> "I believe there's going to be a lot of work with this, with us, with the 
>> state, 
>> with
>> Tesla, looking at what do we need to know," said Rickard Donovan, fire chief 
>> in
>> the town of Rindge, scene of the December one-car crash. "There have been a
>> lot of inquiries I have been getting about this."
>> 
>> The accident happened Dec. 26, when a 2017 Tesla Model X, the SUV version of
>> the electric company's car, crashed on Perry Road in Rindge at about 8 p.m.
>> The vehicle broke into two pieces and burst into flames, igniting some brush
>> and trees.
>> 
>> Nina Colasanto of New Ipswich, who had turned 19 that day, was pulled from
>> the wreckage by friends and passersby. She died Saturday after a series of
>> surgeries treating extensive burns.
>> 
>> Colasanto is the first person in New Hampshire to die as the result of an
>> accident involved an all-electric vehicle, according to Michael Todd, 
>> spokesman
>> for the New Hampshire State Police.
>> 
>> The driver of the Tesla, 17-year-old Travis Olson of Rindge, and a second
>> passenger were injured, but not seriously. The accident is still under
>> investigation by the New Hampshire State Police, according to Rindge police.
>> Lithium-ion batteries
>> 
>> Electric cars are powered by hundreds of individual lithium-ion batteries
>> connected together. Lithium-ion batteries in laptop computers, cell phones 
>> and
>> other devices have been known to burst into flame, especially if they get
>> damaged.
>> 
>> A story after the accident in the Monadnock Ledger-Transcript quoted a person
>> living near the accident who described how the flames reacted after the
>> accident.
>> 
>> "So that was a lithium-ion battery that was on fire, which was pretty scary,"
>> Michelle Barnhart was quoted as saying. "Every time it hit another cell in 
>> the
>> battery it exploded again."
>> 
>> However, it's not clear whether electric cars like the Tesla are more or 
>> less to
>> fires or explosions after accidents, compared to traditional cars carrying
>> flammable gasoline or diesel fuel.
>> 
>> A 2017 study done for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,
>> NHTSA, said that electric cars haven't been around long enough for 
>> conclusions
>> to be reached about comparative safety, but concluded: "The propensity and
>> severity of fires and explosions from ... lithium ion battery systems are
>> anticipated to be somewhat comparable to or perhaps slightly less than those
>> for gasoline or diesel vehicular fuels."
>> 
>> The Tesla Model X received top safety ratings from NHTSA in 2017, and was the
>> first SUV to do so, according to news reports.
>> 
>> About 174,000 vehicle fires were reported in the United States in 2015, the 
>> most
>> recent year for which statistics are available. Virtually all of those fires 
>> involved
>> gasoline-powered cars.
>> Copious amounts of water
>> 
>> Chief Donovan said it took at least a half hour for firefighters to put out 
>> the
>> flames at the Dec. 26 fire. He wasn't sure whether the fire was harder or 
>> easier
>> to put out than a similar accident would be that involved a gasoline-powered
>> car.
>> 
>> "It took lots of water, copious amounts of water. They tried (fire-fighting) 
>> foam,
>> but it really wasn't reacting to it," Donovan said. "It seemed like you 
>> needed a
>> ton of water - we didn't know, was it reacting to metals?"
>> 
>> However, he added, "I've noticed over the past few years ... it's taking a 
>> little
>> more to put out car fires" for all vehicles, perhaps because of more 
>> fire-reactive
>> metals and materials being used in vehicles.
>> 
>> This uncertainty is a major problem for first responders, Donovan said.
>> 
>> The state's Fire Safety Academy has held classes in dealing with fires 
>> involving
>> alternative fuel cars, not just battery-powered cars but also those fueled by
>> other liquids such as compressed natural gas. They teach important facts for
>> first responders, Donovan, such as "where are the shutoffs? where are the 
>> main
>> lines you can't cut into?"
>> 
>> Donovan said he'd like to see training specific to electric cars, which are 
>> likely to
>> become much more common on New Hampshire roadways. But training, he
>> added, can only do so much.
>> 
>> "It's like with a structure fire. We teach in the classroom, but until you 
>> get a 
>> live
>> fire, it's hard to really know. It's hard to duplicate in a training 
>> environment -
>> the smoke, the heat," he said. "It's the same thing with a car fire."
>> 
>> A major difference between battery fires and gasoline fires is speed:
>> Gasoline ignites almost immediately when it comes in contact with a spark or
>> flame, and the fire spreads rapidly. Battery fires typically take more time 
>> to 
>> built
>> the heat necessary to start the fire. Another difference is that battery 
>> fires 
>> can
>> linger and reignite more easily than most liquid-fuel fires. Tesla, for 
>> example,
>> has warned first responders that it can take 24 hours for a battery fire to 
>> be
>> fully extinguished.
>> [© concordmonitor.com]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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