In Netherlands it is common to refer to tricked out trucks and SUVs as “boulevard tractors” because they are all about show with little practical value, while being classified as farm equipment.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Lee Hart via EV Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:27 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Lee Hart Subject: Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremelyfrustrating Lee Hart via EV wrote: >> Though I might add that form has not followed function in >> automobiles for a very long time. They are all about styling and >> cost. The internals reflect good science and engineering, but the >> bodies are almost 100% styling. Willie via EV wrote: > I can't completely agree with you. Current sedans seem to be pretty > low drag. Especially Tesla. Of course, people complain about them > all looking the same. They *seem* to be low drag. But it is still mostly styling. Paul MacCready (of Aerovironment, who designed the Impact EV for GM, which became the EV-1) noted that most cars are more streamlined in reverse. He fought endlessly with GM stylists about the difference between what "looks" aerodynamic, and what actually *is* aerodynamic. All cars have big air intakes in front (which adds drag). They all have rough bottoms (a major source of drag). They all have fancy rough decorative wheels that catch lots of air. The inside of the wheel wells are very rough, which is doubly bad for drag because the top of the tire is moving forward at *double* the vehicle's air speed. And of course big fat tires are all the rage (short skinny tires have much lower drag). When people build truly aerodynamic vehicles, the general public views them as "ugly". But they use far less fuel than conventional vehicles. (The Stella vehicles for example). > I had a bunch of 1980s Isuzu diesel pickups... After about 1995, > nothing comparable to the 80s Isuzus was available. The > Ranger/Mazdas got jacked up so their beds were as inaccessible as > larger pickups. Bah! HumBug! Even the new EV pickups on the > horizon mimic the horrible configurations of current pickups. What > are the designers thinking? What are the buyers thinking? I'm with you there! I had a 1974 Datsun pickup (which I converted into an EV). They were great little trucks! Modern pickups are all about style, and nothing to do with being good trucks. All show, no go. -- The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. (Max Born) -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190119/a3b751c1/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)