On 16 Oct 2018 at 19:57, robert winfield via EV wrote:

> Maybe you forget how few years Tesla has been selling EV'sMaybe you don't know
> what you are talking about when you declare "they failed"

No, I don't forget.  Yes, I do know what I'm talking about.

Tesla has done lots of good things.  They went where few automakers refused 
to go, showing them the way.  They built cars that in many ways are some of 
the best around, regardless of energy source.  For that, I admire them.  
Don't misunderstand me on that.

But when they set out to build a car that people of modest means (like me) 
could afford, I'm sorry, they failed.  

Maybe to all of you, $46k is chump change.  I'm glad for you.  But for 
millions of people worldwide, that's a lot of money.  The low income sector  
is the fastest growing class worldwide, and for SURE it is here in the 
States  

When a person is bringing in $25k or $30k or $35k a year and trying to 
support a family, and I personally know people in that situation, do you 
really want to encourage him to buy a $46k car that he can't afford?

And don't give me that nose-in-the-air rubbish about how they chose their 
lot.  Sometimes you do everything right and you still get what life hands 
you.

I gave you an example of what I consider an affordable car.  You dismissed 
it and said it wasn't comparable.  That's not the point. If you can't afford 
the more expensive car, it doesn't matter how good it is.  You're buying the 
cheaper one.  

The good news is that you're not totally shut out of the EV world.  Used 
Nissan Leaves and a few other models are now available in the US for 
reasonably affordable prices.  I don't know about other countries though, 
nor do I know how long the present glut of cheap Leaves will last.

I haven't driven a Model 3, probably never will, but I'm sure it's a great 
car.  Maybe it really is comparable to an BMW or Mercedes.  

But blast it, THAT'S NOT WHAT TESLA PROMISED FOR THE MODEL 3.  They promised 
an affordable EV.  Most of us assumed they meant something more or less 
comparable to a mid-range Toyota.  But that's not what Tesla delivered.  
Instead, they gave us a somewhat cut down Model S that doesn't get to use 
Superchargers for free.  

Some of us are not impressed.

In many other efforts, Tesla succeeded, but not in that one.  Maybe someday 
they will.  I hope so.

And that's all I have to say on this subject.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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