Oh yea, his premise is wrong as well. A large format cell is made up of many 
smaller cells in parallel. I opened a 100 Ah cell and it had 10 - 10Ah cells 
paralleled inside with no fuse between them: so if you loose one you loose them 
all.

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> On Sep 9, 2018, at 6:24 AM, Willie via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
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> 
>> On 09/08/2018 09:38 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
>> Well, does anyone have actual numbers regarding failures of Teslas? Overall, 
>> they've been out long enough that "we" should know if there are reliability 
>> problems or not. On my part, I have not heard of any widespread Tesla 
>> failure. What reliability problems is C.S. referring to?
> 
> Anecdotal, but I know of quite of few Ss that have had their batteries 
> replaced/repaired in warranty.  On my ~130k mile 2013 S, the battery was 
> recently changed.  There was no real obvious issue but the Tesla service 
> people said it should be changed.  Range was still above 90% of original and 
> I had not complained of range loss; I considered the loss reasonable.  I 
> would guess 30-50% of Tesla with more than 100k miles have had their 
> batteries replaced.  Probably all under warranty; I have heard of no one who 
> had to buy a battery.  Fact is, cost of replacement in generally unknown.  It 
> seems Tesla is not replacing with new batteries.  In some cases they install 
> a loaner battery while the faulty battery is being refurbished.  In other 
> cases they replace with a refurbished battery.   I assume the refurbishment 
> involves replacing a smallish number of bad cells.
> 
> Much in contrast to Nissan, the battery replacements are painless; as 
> mentioned, I did not even know I had a battery problem but Tesla was eager to 
> make it right.  Nissan refuses to replace obviously bad batteries.
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