Certainly your situation is possible, and perhaps the duty cycle for others is the same. But many people gave two cars, Leaf owners average more cars that the other owners. Why do they need it? Because the extra car that others don't have may be an ICE?
Sent from AltaMail From: Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Smart Car Conversion Kits? (EV emissions reduction) Date: 10/26/16, 12:19 PM > Also disturbing was the fact that a Leaf owners own more > cars per household, and seem to use ICE vehicles regularly. > So we're not getting some of the emission reductions we anticipated. That conclusion does not follow. If my wife and I have two cars, and we get an EV and we keep a prius for trips to gramma's, then we are still getting 100% of the emissions reduction for the EV. In fact, the one of us with the longest commute on any day will use the EV and so we may actually be getting more than 100% emissions reduction for that that EV. Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz via EV Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:51 AM To: EVDL Administrator; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Smart Car Conversion Kits? It's not easy to break some of this out, but a recent study in California showed that those that bought plug-in hybrids were less likely to plug it in as frequently (or at all), the lower the ZE miles were. Also disturbing was the fact that a Leaf owners own more cars per household, and seem to use ICE vehicles regularly. So we're not getting some of the emission reductions we anticipated. Sent from AltaMail From: EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Smart Car Conversion Kits? Date: 10/25/16, 7:35 PM On 25 Oct 2016 at 6:22, paul dove via EV wrote: > Yes but was it a reliable source? Good question. I saw it quoted somewhere and have been trying to trace it back to the source. I hit a dead end at edmunds.com. Looking there I find not the 2/3 figure, but an even worse one -- 72.5%. Important distinction though: the Edmunds article is referring not to just EVs, but also to hybrids. Absent any further elucidation on their part, I take that as all types including those which don't plug in and use only liquid fuel (gasoline/petrol). They lump these all together as "alt-fuel," which is bogus unless you somehow consider "not coal" or "not wood" an alternative fuel. That puts things in a different perspective. For your average vehicle buyer, it doesn't take much effort or commitment to switch to a "hybrid" which acts just like a conventional car except that it uses less fuel and doesn't idle when stopped. So, fuel prices have gone down, and folks who bought (probably mostly) Toyota Prii when fuel prices were higher are switching back to -- it turns out -- by and large, small SUVs. Big deal. More: Edmunds doesn't cite their sources, which makes me a little suspicious of this number. So on further research and reflection I have to conclude that there's probably nothing much to see here. If you'd like to read the original article, search for "Hybrid and EV Loyalty Plunges Due to Low Gas Prices." David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161026/1852da 17/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161026/46f9a0af/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
