Ed,
I wanted to thank you once again for letting me drive your leaf several years 
ago to get a feel for the car (this was around the same time that a colleague 
bought a Tesla Model S and since he knew I had an EV truck, he let me drive 
that a short trip as well. Nothing compares to a Tesla for sure, but the 
performance of a Leaf is plenty for me so I had no doubt saying "yes" when I 
had a good opportunity to buy one cheap.

I believe that the Tesla "auto-pilot" will actually complain if you take your 
hands off the wheel and not touch it for a while. Certainly as soon as the 
auto-pilot is not sure, it alarms the driver to take over again and I think 
there is no misunderstanding with anyone that the nut behind the wheel is 
responsible for the operation of the car at all times, no matter how much they 
would like to take a nap or be distracted for longer time. Driving on a clean 
and well-maintained freeway in good weather, that may actually be possible but 
it is the exception to the rule.
You can disagree and the impression with some drivers may be that the car is 
self-driving, but plenty drivers have wrong impression about rules of the road 
anyway, that is why there are so many accidents. I can't commute without 
usually seeing at least one and sometimes several crashes, every day. And I 
commute only 11 miles!

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Blackmond via EV
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 7:34 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a 
driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform


> On Jul 29, 2016, Cor van de Water wrote:
> 
> I did not know you need to be a tech junkie
> to understand and confirm the on-screen warning message
> "You must keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times
> and take over the driving as needed"
> when you engage "autopilot”.
> 

In response,

> On Jul 29, 2016, Chris Tromley wrote:
> 
> How often do you habitually click through ​dialog boxes on your way to
> opening a computer application?  (And how often has that caused a problem?)
> Could it be that confirming the Tesla on-screen message becomes blind
> habit after a few times?  I do understand that we're in a transition here,
> with cars becoming rolling computers.  But perhaps it's worth re-examining
> that user interface.  The consequences of not paying attention aren't so
> bad when you're launching a favorite feature in your entertainment system.
> It's quite another matter when it applies to vehicle guidance.

I’m going to have to agree with Chris Tromley here.  If Cor van de Water’s 
quote of the Tesla on-screen message is accurate, the message is way too long.  
Very few people will ever read it.

I’ve been driving my 2011 Nissan Leaf for 1 week less than five years now.  
Every time I power up the car, a message appears on the center console screen 
with the option to accept or cancel it.  The car runs just fine if I do 
neither.  I usually touch the cancel button when I notice it.  A friend riding 
with me will usually touch the OK button.  The car has just over 50,000 miles 
now and I doubt the message has ever been read.

I consider graphically rendered buttons on a touch screen display too dangerous 
for an automotive interface.  A physical button can be found and activated 
without taking my eyes off the road.  A button on a touch screen display 
requires looking away from the road and at the screen to get my finger to the 
correct place.

Ed
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