Still does not solve the problem that some car manufacturers try to make working on your car or even getting specs on the parts of your own car, illegal and only allowed by manufacturer-approved repair places. Right to Repair, is all I am going to say here. righttorepair.org/
If I had a car new enough to have Onstar or similar remote access, then it might not always be connected to phone home... Luckily I do not have that problem, my current daily driver does not have cup holders or cig lighter plug... Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga via EV Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:46 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] HOW GM BEATS TESLA TO THE Every Man's Electric Car Well said. I applaud GM for giving leadership in the Volt. And grumpy ol'd grudge laiden people unwilling to try anything new just hold us all back. Bob -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Collin Kidder via EV Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:37 AM To: Chris Tromley; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] HOW GM BEATS TESLA TO THE Every Man's Electric Car I agree. In addition, corporations, like people, go through phases. I'm sure many people would not want to be judged by how they were 20 or 30 years ago. You changed, you're a different person now than you were then. Corporations also get new leaders every so often and their direction can change. If the Bolt is a good car and everything they say it is then supporting it would not be evil. If you support the good things that a company does that tells them that they should keep doing those things. It's like feeding a shark as you said. Or, like giving a dog a cookie for doing what you wanted them to do. Positive reinforcement works. Yes, many people have long memories but nobody benefits from a grudge. At some point it pays to give a company a second chance if they appear to now be doing the right thing. In GM's case they would only be doing the right thing as a last resort and while dragging their feet the whole time. But, let's not validate their hesitance. On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Chris Tromley via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > It's important to remember that corporations aren't people. They're > more like sharks looking for food. You can't train a shark, but you > can have some control over it if you control its food supply. > > If it goes somewhere that is beneficial, like manufacturing EVs, make > sure there's a good supply of food for it there. If there isn't it'll > go elsewhere. > > I really like Hondas, but I despise their approach to EVs. They did > the same evil things to the EV+ that GM did to the EV1, but got no bad > press for it. The EV1 was the poster child for EVs back then. > > So I refuse to buy a Honda until they change their ways, and I let > them know about it. In my own small way I'm trying to control their > food supply. Same with Toyota. > > If the Bolt is a genuine entry into the EV market and not a compliance > car, I don't care what GM did in the past. A shark has no memory. > > Chris > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160112/84 > 3d8cfe/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag > racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
