The problem is in NY state, any motorized bike is illegal to ride on public streets, since the law does not allow them. Stupid, but that is the situation. So, first the law needs to be changed, then education how to ride (and e-bike) safely can follow.
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 Tel: +1 408 383 7626 Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 -----Original Message----- From: EV on behalf of Larry Gales via EV Sent: Sat 7/11/2015 5:43 PM To: Rush Dougherty; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL Administrator Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting & seizing escooters & ebicycles But are you talking about eBike RIDERS or eBike COURIERS? Yes, the eBike delivery people ride like maniacs because they have a strong economic incentive to drive as fast as possible, but all eBike riders (who can contribute to lower traffic congestion, parking, and pollution), should not suffer because of these few. Granted, all bike riders should learn to obey the laws, but this should be much easier to do in an eBike, because you have no strong incentive to maintain your momentum: it is just as easy to go uphill in an eBike, as on the level. On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > While the law may be dumb and the facts cited wrong. The main negative > thing > about these electric scooters and electric bikes is that the riders TOTALLY > ignore any law, they are actually quite dangereous. Even the average pedal > bike > rider ignores all the traffic laws. The name of the delivery game is how > fast > you can make your delivery period, not how fast you can do it and still > respect > the traffic rules. > > If the ebike riders would stop when they are supposed to, ride with the > traffic, > stay on the road, not the sidewalk etc, I'm sure they would be supported. > But > they don't obey the laws. > > Rush Dougherty > Tucson AZ 85719 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of EVDL > Administrator > via EV > > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:25 PM > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting & seizing escooters & ebicycles > > > > Dumb, dumb law. NYC needs low-impact 2-wheel transportation as much as > any > other > > large city. > > > > "We try to confiscate them as soon as we see them" is the sort of action > that > can give the > > law a bad name. It sounds too much like the abuse of asset forfeiture > laws > that's been in > > the news for the last few years. > > > > These laws need to be modernized, pronto. At the same time, bike riders > need > to obey the > > traffic laws, whether their bikes have motors or not. > > > > Here in Ohio, no registration is required for e-bikes under 750 Watts. > The > law does require > > either a driver's license or a "probationary motorized bicycle license" > which > you can get at > > age 14 by passing a test. > > > > Not that I'd ever condone breaking the law, but today there's no reason > that > an e-bike can't > > look exactly like an unpowered bike. A modern hub motor can be > surprisingly > > inconspicuous. Lithium batteries and wiring can be packaged inside the > frame > tubes. > > > > In fact powered bikes can be so subtle that for several years now the > Tour de > France has > > been plagued by rumors of "doped bikes" or "mechanical doping." > > > > http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/fresh-motorised-doping- > > claims-ryder-hesjedals-bike-moves-134745 > > > > http://v.gd/FjUNaD > > > > Anyone trying to ride electrically "under the radar" would need to use > plenty > of discretion, > > which I hope would prevent the kind of shenanigans that seem be be > raising a > few gripes in > > NYC. > > > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > > EVDL Administrator > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL > Information: > > http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = = > = = = > > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. > To send > a private > > message, please obtain my email address from the webpage > http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Larry Gales -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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