I have some limited experience with living in an apartment / multi-tenant building while also trying to take care of a vehicle (for example, charging it). Even when staying in a single-family home, there can be reasons that you can't park in the garage (since it has stuff, not cars) or the driveway (because you are sharing the home without rights to the driveway) so you need to park in the street. My own experience (this was an area of town without sidewalks) was that when parking close enough to the front fence, pedestrians will walk around the car, so it is safe to run a long (100 ft) extension cord from the car, along the side of the driveway to the outdoor outlet on the garage. I had no problems in about a year staying there.
In the apartment, I was able to find a corner apartment with parking also at the same corner, underneath. So all I needed to do (and I asked and got permission in advance, before renting) was to run an extension cord from our balcony's outdoor outlet, along the side of the building to my parking spot and attach it at both ends and throw the end behind a small wall when not in use to avoid creating a tripping hazard and only turning the power on while the cord was plugged into the car. In the multi-tenant situation I did not have an EV yet, but I had just bought a salvage Prius that I had towed to the home and was working on in the common parking behind the home. Every one of the units had enough windows and there even was an occasional outdoor outlet that would have allowed running an extension cord, so as long as you are willing to be creative, you can usually find a way to power an EV overnight, although I have seen apartment setups where that would be a challenge. Luckily local code is changing to require preparations for EV charging in multi-tenant situations. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 Tel: +1 408 383 7626 Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 -----Original Message----- From: EV on behalf of Robert Bruninga via EV Sent: Sat 1/24/2015 1:43 PM To: Ben Goren; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 100 new level 3 chargers for busy corridors Nationally, by census, exactly 2/3rds of Americans (67%) live in single family detached homes (this includes mobile homes). Presumably, every one of them can figure out a way to get 120v cord to the car. With less than 1% of people buying EV's, I'm not too worried about the 1/3rd living in apartments until we make more progress with those who simply drive the new EV home and can plug it in immediately. We need to focus on them beacuse it is so easy. COmpared to the mountain of issues involved with multi-family housing issues (though we should also fight those batteles too, lets not let it detract from those 205,000,000 that do have outlets to plug into. In maryland, the governor's study assumed most people charge at home. Of those charging away from home, they determined that over 97% of all charging at work can be done from standard 120v outlets. Only 0.3% of the need was for interstate fast charging (that gets all the press due to gas-tank/gas-station legacy thinking which simply does not apply to commuters). Bob, Wb4APR On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ben Goren via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jan 23, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > What percentage of households can charge at home? > > Today? Your guess of a bit over half might even be on the optimistic side, > considering all the apartment dwellers. > > But it's going to be very soon, I think, when anybody who owns a car is > going to expect to charge it when it's parked in its normal spot at home, > even if only at 110v. Yes, of course, landlords will balk at first -- > especially the low-rent ones. But, once enough people have EVs, not having > a place to charge it is going to mark a place as undesirable as not having > cable (etc.) TV...and, soon thereafter, as not having indoor plumbing.... > > The real challenges are going to be places like San Francisco where > everybody parks on the street and nobody even thinks to put a car in the > garage. But that city in particular is likely to lead the way in EV > adoption, so I'm sure they'll figure it out...and I rather imagine it'll > come in the form of overpriced parking meters.... > > b& > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 801 bytes > Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150123/b127546a/attachment.pgp > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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