On 26 Jun 2014 at 13:00, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:

> Your premise is wrong. The big energy companies do *not* like FCVs.

I suspect that they'd much prefer them to BEVs.  

> > Remember, hydrogen is not really a fuel. You can't pump it out of the 
> > ground.  You have to make it from some other fuel.
> 
> Not necessarily, unless you wish to call water a fuel.

Now cut that out.  You know fulll well that water is not a fuel any more 
than hydrogen is.  The fuel is the energy input to the electrolysis, or the 
natural gas input to the steam reforming.

The hydrogen is just an energy carrier, and not a very efficient one at 
that.  

Dream on.  I don't know why you're so keen on hydrogen (maybe you'd like to 
tell us about your involvement with it?), but it's a loser.

> 
> > Most often that's 
> > natural gas (and IIRC the process produces more CO2 than getting an 
> > equivalent amount of energy by directly burning the gas).  
> 
> The process produces less than  the petroleum we're trying to replace it with.

Citation needed.

> And the tailpipe emissions (the main driver for the regs) are zero.

If the anti-BEV crowd can flog the old canard that BEVs just transfer 
emissions to powerplant stacks, then they should also note that FCVs 
transfer emissions to the hydrogen production plants.  Do they?

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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