ho! that is inspiring and encouraging .What can I say .. reminds me when I
first started to learn English, and I  had to carry my dictionary with me
all the time, I just wanted to know every unknown word I seen in adds ,
books, t-shirts etc.., still people had gone into my purse, and they have
found dictionaries ; asking me why? . I still have to learn more vocabulary
and work on adjectives as well with compound verbs and lots more but in
contrast with Adrian, grammar did help me very much, although previous
knowledge was needed . As feeling ESL part of yours,  I agree with
Adrian's  experience that he didn't  want  to think in  speaking  English so
objectively  but  to think in it  naturally .

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Eduardo Costa <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
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> Posted: 26 Oct 2010 08:29 AM PDT
>
> *Several months ago, I told the story of 
> Adrian<http://successfulenglish.com/2010/02/frustration-to-success/>
> **, a frustrated Brazilian English-learner who dropped out of his English
> class. Shortly after that, he discovered that we acquire language in one way
> – by reading and listening. In a short time – a little more than two years –
> Adrian became very fluent in English. Later, he used the same method to
> acquire Spanish. I recently received an e-mail from Adrian that continues
> the story of his language journey – a story every language learner should
> read. Here is Adrian’s e-mail:*
>
> (Note: I have made few changes, mostly punctuation, to Adrian’s e-mail; I
> wanted you to see his story the way he tells it. I have marked words I added
> by putting them in brackets, [like this].)
>
> Dear Warren,
>
> Months ago I wrote to you to tell about the beginning of my journey
> studying English. I decided to write to update and reflect a little bit more
> about my journey.
>
> * *
>
> *The beginning*
>
> * *
>
> As you can remember, my English studies began with classes at a prestigious
> [school] in Brazil. My grades were high – I never got less than 9.0 – but I
> used to speak with difficulty, limited [fluency], and fear. I remember
> memorizing dialogues and devoting hours to study for tests. I remember my
> huge problem, too: I only [correctly applied] the rule for the third person
> singular a few times although I knew the grammar rule I should use at that
> time. As you know, I was frustrated and left the course despite having
> passed the tests.
>
> * *
>
> *The change*
>
> … even if I had given up the English course, I had not given up my
> objective to learn English. I used Google, and after some time I found
> quotes from the writings of [Dr. Stephen] Krashen [in Portuguese] on a site
> about language. Insisting on [reading] the research, I found the actual site
> of Krashen. After that, I found the ESL Podcast, VOA, and finally, your web
> page….
>
> * *
>
> *How I learn*
>
> Today, I can see some problems that blocked my learning. But the biggest
> one, I believe, was the way they were trying to teach me how to learn
> English [by memorizing rules]. I also think that the answer to my difficulty
> was obvious. As a grandson of Italians, I learned Italian with my family.
> [As the] son of Brazilians, I learned Portuguese with my family. That is, I
> learned Portuguese and Italian in a natural way, by living them. Why should
> learning a third language be different? But it was. Learning English for me
> … was a marathon of drills and exercises that sometimes I could not
> understand the purpose.
>
> The point is that I did not learn Portuguese or Italian studying grammar,
> yet I speak both languages very well and have well-structured writing. In
> fact, when I want I simply speak Portuguese or Italian. How is this
> possible? The answer is that I learned both without treating [them] as
> something strange: they are part of me and of my culture. I think when you
> start studying a language through grammar what happens is that the language
> becomes an object, like a can I pick up on the supermarket shelf. The
> language is no longer part of me; it becomes something strange to me,
> something artificial.
>
> … I am not saying that studying grammar is not something you should do….
> Studying grammar is important, but for everything there is an appropriate
> time. I have not learned to speak Portuguese or Italian with my parents
> repeating grammatical rules, but I studied grammar to write well and polish
> aspects of my speech years later, after I know how to speak.
>
> The same learning process that made me a “native” in Portuguese and Italian
> [acquiring language by listening and reading] is what, as you know, I have
> been following to learn English. Today, I simply speak English. When I want,
> I change from Portuguese to English or Italian to English and without
> thinking, naturally.
>
> * *
>
> In the first letter I wrote to you, I mentioned that, for a while, I only
> used to listen to the ESL Podcast, VOA, and read, read widely in English. …I
> did not speak English for nearly 10 months. In my opinion, this silent
> period was important for me to reduce my anxiety when entering an
> English-speaking environment as well as to have time to put together the
> pieces of the English language….
>
> *And now, Spanish*
>
> For professional reasons I am teaching in a foreign language – I teach law
> in Spanish. Today I teach at a prestigious University in Spain as a visiting
> professor. I began my studies in Spanish more or less a year-and-a-half ago.
> The method I used is the same that [helped] me learn English. I tried to
> [extensively] expose myself to the Spanish language, firstly reading the
> easiest things and listening to slow narratives. Almost two years later, I
> read well and I am able to teach three classes, each one with 52 to 60
> students, without disruption….
>
> Adrian
>
> In his e-mail, Adrian also describes how he tried to improve his Spanish by
> doing a lot of speaking when he first moved to Spain. Unfortunately,
> speaking Spanish didn’t help very much. So what did he do? He says he spent
> “weekends with my silent reading and listening more than talking.” He tells
> me that his Spanish speaking began to improve very quickly after that.
>
> Adrian’s story may seem exceptional, and in many ways it is. But it doesn’t
> have to be an unusual story. Anyone can do what Adrian did. How?
>
>    - Get as much comprehensible input as possible – interesting,
>    understandable English – by reading and listening. Adrian often spends 2-4
>    hours reading and listening every day. He carries his iPod, iPad, or a book
>    everywhere he goes and takes advantage of short periods of free time.
>    - Be enthusiastic about your English journey. Treat English as your
>    language, not something alien; let it become part of your life. Think of
>    yourself as becoming a member of the “English-users Club” – that large 
> group
>    of people around the world who use English frequently and use it well.
>
> Related reading (the beginning of Adrian’s story):
>
>    - *Frustration to 
> success<http://successfulenglish.com/2010/02/frustration-to-success/>
>    *
>    - *Frustration to success – how he did 
> it<http://successfulenglish.com/2010/04/frustration-to-success-how-he-did-it/>
>    *
>
> Warren Ediger
>
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