Hi Hannes,

On 6/12/20 11:29 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:

A short follow-up on my own review:

I wrote:



"
Pre-Shared Key (PSK) authentication SHALL NOT be used except
   for resumption.
"
What you want to say that that EAP-TLS MUST NOT use external PSKs. I wonder why 
you want to rule that use case out? It is a perfectly fine use case for TLS 1.3 
and there is even the possibility to use PSK with ECDHE. What is the motivation?



I noticed now that the working group had a discussion about this already and 
that there is a new document being published specifically focused on 
EAP-TLS-PSK-based authentication. Hence, ignore the second part of my comment.

Indeed. There has been lots of discussion on this topic. To summarize:

RFC 5216 explicitly required certificate based TLS authentication with the 
following text:

   If the EAP server is not resuming a previously established session,
   then it MUST include a TLS server_certificate handshake message, and
   a server_hello_done handshake message MUST be the last handshake
   message encapsulated in this EAP-Request packet.

   The certificate message contains a public key certificate chain for
   either a key exchange public key (such as an RSA or Diffie-Hellman
   key exchange public key) or a signature public key (such as an RSA or
   Digital Signature Standard (DSS) signature public key).

Bernard Aboba opined that external PSK based authentication shouldn't be added 
to EAP-TLS in this update. Instead a separate document (with a separate EAP 
method type) should do that. Hence, we now have: 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mattsson-emu-eap-tls-psk-00. For reference, 
here are some email conversations containing discussion on this topic:

- https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/FtxRJHTjzSY0yVdVr8Vjyk9D-vk/
- https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/CRh3VXLDnpJFFIbHWJAjiOgfzAg/
- https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/nYrIA4PKqk2mrUoNvAtFh7S-Xb8/
- https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/hVG357HXqvy0EjZ2yrOLdspH53o/

--Mohit



Ciao
Hannes

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