On Feb 8, 2019, at 7:21 AM, John Mattsson <john.matts...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> (Everything below is from a pure EAP-TLS (0x0d) perspective without 
> considering any cross-method things)
> 
> - From an EAP-TLS perspective, I think these two cases ("not authenticated" 
> and "authenticate via some other means") are the same, the peer is not 
> authenticated as far as EAP-TLS is concerned. I read the sentence "other 
> means" as outside of TLS.
> 
> - RFC 5216 allows deployments with only server authentication:
> 
> RFC 5216: "While the EAP server SHOULD require peer authentication, this is 
> not mandatory, since there are circumstances in which peer authentication 
> will not be needed (e.g., emergency services, as described in [UNAUTH]), or 
> where the peer will authenticate via some other means."
> 
> I don't know if there exists EAP-TLS (0x0d) deployments where the "peer 
> authentication will not be needed" or "peer will authenticate via some other 
> means", but if they do exist, we should probably not forbid them to do 
> resumption unless we have good reasons.

  I agree.

  I can't think of any deployment which allows unauthenticated EAP-TLS.  Or 
authenticated only via the NAI.

> - Looking at e.g. emergency services (RFC 7406), the peer would indicate 
> emergency by forming a specific NAI, the network access would then have to be 
> restricted based on the fact that the peer is unauthenticated. With this 
> functionality in place, I do not see that resumption as such is the problem.

  I agree.

> I think draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13 needs some sentence about the peer can use 
> specific NAIs to affect the server's behaviour. Emergency services being one. 
> Was there anything in the discussion between Alan DeKok and Dr. Pala about 
> identities that should be added to draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13? I need to get 
> back to that thread.

  There wasn't any discussion about that use-case.

  Alan DeKok.

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