> On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
> 
> > I don't believe that existing crypto binding is adequate for NEA's 
needs
> > as discussed in draft-hartman-emu-mutual-crypto-binding.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, though, I'm not sure that tls-unique helps enough here. 
If
> > the outer method actually does provide server authentication as
> > deployed, then tls-unique is adequate.  TLS-unique is preferable to
> > crypto-binding because it allows you to determine whether you're 
talking
> > about the right tunnel in the scope of the inner method--prior to 
doing
> > the NEA assessment--rather than in the scope of the outer method. 
(Also,
But it said nea-pt-eap might come right after an inner EAP method, 
so crypto binding might be needed to bind tunnel and inner methods.

tls-unique in the draft is used in higher layer (by broker) to bind the 
EAP tunnel channel with
application layer.

> > I'd assume this method does not generate a particularly useful key, so
> > crypto binding is not that helpful)
As far as I know, the nea-pt-eap method is not an authentication method, 
it is just used to transfer information, similar to EAP Identity
> > 
> > However, if you're depending on something other than the outer method
> > for server authentication, then TLS-unique is not good enough.
The secure transfer of nea-pt-eap depends entirely on EAP tunnel method, 
so
the EAP tunnel method is required to provide strong authentication, 
integrity and confidentiality protection. 

Sujing Zhou
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