On Saturday 05 September 2020 01:10:20 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 15:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 04 September 2020 13:20:26 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 10:02 -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > > > > ...So, to make LinuxCNC nearly universal, hide it inside a > > > > > > product that > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > slick and easy to install and use. No one should have to > > > > > > look at HAL > > > > > > > > > > files > > > > > > > > > > > or know it runs on Linux. They can learn, but if learning > > > > > > is required it will always remain a niche product. > > > > > > > > > > Great stuff! So, when are you going to get started on this > > > > > project? > > > > > > > > I wrote that to show why it will never happen. But also to > > > > make a point that there does exist a pattern in the way complex > > > > niche products become mainstream. Usually, another layer is > > > > built around it. PCs were kind of rare until Windows covered > > > > over the DOS command line. > > > > > > This is questionable. I used a PC with UNIX in 1984 and all our > > > clients had UNIX. No graphics interface, only command line, > > > databases and ad-hoc graphic programs. This was before Windows, we > > > had UNIX and DOS in dual-boot on some PCs, UNIX on the servers. > > > However the Apple Mac already had a graphics interface :-) > > > > Our first experince with unix, was on an AT&T 3B2 CBS bought all the > > affiliates as a message service. It was not a good experience > > because the 3b2 was built like most Apples, the first layer of dust > > and cheap sleeve bearing fans killed a fan and usually started a > > fire. I had a halon extinguisher sitting next to it that got used a > > couple times. Then CBS bought us all new systems running on a pc, > > running NT-3.5.1, which had a built in timer in its housekeeping > > that deleted the main .dll about every 2 years. I called Redmond and > > got called a pie rat because I wanted a copy of that .dll. I washed > > my hands of anything that looked like windows, somebody else could > > have that headache and when I decided my amiga was on its last legs, > > and built a pc from parts in '98, it got red hat 5.0 installed. My > > property has a bounty on windows, and no windows I've ever been > > forced to buy has lasted more than a week past the warranty. I have > > one win-10 box, a $330 hp thing used as a display for drawing smith > > charts of an AM broadcast tower, couldn't make the linux drivers > > work. IMNSHO Win-10 is a damned poor substutute for Linux. But you > > ALL know that. :) > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > My first experience with unix was on my IBM PC1, with one 5 1/4 floppy > and a 32MB IBM hard disk. the OS was Interactive Systems Unix and DOS > 3.3 in dual-boot. But this was after playing/programming four years > with my Commodore 64. > I still have the C64 in a drawer with all the devices and floppies :-) > Also I have conserved the DOS Turbo Pascal 3.0 compiler and also Turbo > Prolog, Fortran 77 4.1 and Autocad 2.9 :-) > I was the same with os9 for the trash 80 color computer, but after a nearly 35 year uptime, my beloved coco died, dried out caps and boots no more a/o about 90 days back. I'm torn between moving on, and taking the time to just shotgun every electrolytic in it. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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