I am still using Inventor 2011. Yes; it took a while to get to grips
with it, but it's very capable. I have 2014 but have never installed
it (always seem to be waiting for a newer computer). Inventor has
become Fusion 360 now, so there seems little point in upgrading
Inventor itself. There is no CAM element to Inventor 2011, so models
are exported as STEP files, then imported into Vectric's  VCarve Pro
if they are to be milled, or Repetier if they are to be 3D printed.

 I think any capable 3D CAD/CAM program will take a bit of learning,
and for me the big step was learning to think in 3D. I have found the
process requires me to think more about how to manufacture the object,
than simply to draw it. The most challenging part has been learning
how to create objects with complex angles between different planes,
which I need for drawing large moulding tools.Strangely, although I
know how to do classic pencil-and-paper technical drawing, I found
AutoCAD quite frustrating to use, and 3D drawing much more liberating
once I got going. Inventor is based on the AutoCAD engine, but you
would never know it from using Inventor.

I have tried many of the free programs, but they vary too much in both
approach to the task and in real capability to make much impression on
me. If I can't get my head around how the programmer thinks about 3D
objects, I find it difficult to use the program. TinkerCAD for 3D
printing is a classic example. I have a friend nearby who creates all
manner of things in TinkerCAD. I can barely draw a square with a hole
in the middle, because I don't think about 3D objects in the same way
as the programmer did when creating the interface. That's strange,
because TinkerCAD is based on the  Inventor engine (which, like the
Russian dolls, is based on AutoCAD...).
As an aside, my final year project at University, a very long time
ago, was creating a program to produce a drawing of interpenetrating
pipes, and a layout drawing for heavy steel sheet to be cut then
rolled into pipes for oil rig legs. The others in my yeargroup were
working on other aspects of drawing on a computer; all of which was
new in those early days. It was all based on a mathematical approach
to classic 2D drawing techniques. So its a source of joy and wonder to
me that we have such capable 3D  CAD/CAM software nowadays. It makes
workshop life so much more interesting.
One other aspect from those early days, was a procedure for generating
two photos of a drawing on a flat monitor screen. The camera took two
photos simultaneously but from two different angles, 5 degrees apart.
The resultant images were loaded into a ViewMaster type of slide
projector, and produced a 3D image of the object. Where are you now,
Occulus??? That was in 1974.

I signed up for Fusion360 (free version) a long time ago, but need  a
decent  64-bit machine to be able to run it, so that will have to
wait.

I also signed up for OnShape, but that would not run on my Mac or on
any of my (slightly older) PCs. I don't know anyone who is using that
software, and my impression is that their 'free' business model didn't
last terribly long.

I tried SolidWorks a long time ago, and went to a demo/workshop
session. I could understand how to use the program (based on my
experience with Inventor) but the licence was way more expensive than
a full-price Inventor licence, and the ongoing costs were not
inconsiderable, so I left that alone.

I think that as far as CAD/CAM programs go, you get what you pay for.
Or maybe the capability of Inventor has spoiled me.
The free licence for Fusion360 has to be a real bargain, for as long
as it lasts.

Marcus

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Subject:Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

 On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 22:32 Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:

 > On 03/22/2019 04:14 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
 > > Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk?
 > >
 > >
 > We just got set up with Autocad Inventor at work. While
 > very capable, and it has lots of good CAM strategies, it is
 > SO COMPLICATED! We have one guy here who got good with it,
 > so I let my meager skills lapse, and now I barely know how
 > to view a document.
 >
 > I think Fusion is a very similar program.
 >
 > Jon
 >

 The Lars Christensen Fusion 360 videos on YouTube are very good. Lars
 works for Autodesk.

 Dave

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