H2 sounds interesting, you should it well ventilated or combusted as soon
as possible to avoid an explosion? Or maybe both, open light and good
ventilation? To avoid sparcs is also a solution but it have a catastrophic
failure mode.

It is most often used for circuit boards. But how do they do here, a fluid
jet?

2017-01-25 2:43 GMT+01:00 TJoseph Powderly <[email protected]>:

> Hello
> I have not used ecm myself, i use edm a lot.
> I've seen ecm machines working on blisks at factories working for engine
> manufacturers
>
> I know about high current discharges, but ecm is different.
> edm is efficient up to 4"^2 work area at up to 350/400 amperes,
> ecm can handle much larger areas and much larger currents
>
> the gap control strategies are similar from what i've read
>
> theres not a lot of info for DIY
>
> this may be of use (old US gov work at MIT )
> http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/659004.pdf
>
> and I'd suggest beginning with a used machine and viewing running machines
> if you can get a scope on one it would be really help your understanding
>
> from academia ( yes you have to sign up but they havent been a spammer
> for me )
> http://www.academia.edu/1407899/Development_of_Electrochemical_
> Micromachining_Table_Top_Machine_Set_Up
> in the paper he does document a small avr based ecm machine (stepper
> driven, 555 pulse timing... ), so
> its not a commercial quality but a good beginner system example
>
> the actual docs and prints or a commercial machine may be very hard to
> get, and very hard to interpret.
> all manufactures directly or indirectly obfuscate the how-to part.
> their intent was never to let you build your own ;-)
>
> a service man from emag could tell you a lot!
> http://www.emag.com/technologies/ecm-electro-chemical-machining.html
>
> regards
> tomp tjtr33
> .
>
>
> a
> On 01/25/17 05:35, Peter Weuta wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I did follow the interesting discussion about retrofitting EDM machines
> > closely.... .
> >
> > Is there anybody out there having experience with retrofitting of ECM
> > machines (Electrochemical Maching) ?
> > This processing technology does seem to be alot less common compared to
> > EDM, some basics of the process are mentioned here:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrochemical_machining
> > http://electrochemicalmachining.com/technology/process-overview
> >
> > Compared to EDM there are quite some advantages:
> > - very low surface roughness achievable
> > - no recast layer or heat affected zone
> > Therefore a nice technology to process advanced alloys as for example
> > Inconel 718 or alike.... .
> >
> > We are developing high performance gas turbines. In order to keep BLISK
> > (/Blade on a disc/) manufacturing in house we are planning to acquire
> > and retrofit an ECM machine.
> > My questions:
> > - has this been done by anybody on this list so far ?
> > - any recommondation concerning potential machines to choose from ?
> > (Machines should have an obsolete control system in order to follow the
> > usual justification for conducting a retrofit.)
> > - an alternative might be using an EBM machine as the basis and
> > converting this to ECM. However this would involve quite significant
> > modifications in the field of electrolyte processing, gas cleaning and
> > safety issues (H2 is formed during the process)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks alot for your comments in advance + Best Regards,
> > Peter
> >
> > Am 14.01.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Nicklas Karlsson:
> >> It would be good with links like this on the linuxcnc home page and of
> course even better with files themselves if there are no copyright
> restrictions.
> >>
> >> I have attachad a pdf-file which is interesting.
> >>
> >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:08:03 +0700
> >> TJoseph Powderly <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nicklas, Sarah and all interested in EDM
> >>> i found this resource
> >>> unlike most tech sites , the papers are free :-)
> >>> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/22128271/42/supp/C
> >>> regards, tomp tjtr33
> >>>
> >>> btw: lots more than edm here!
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