Maybe not the topic in this thread, but important information anyway ….
Different kind of documentation and labelling must be in place during shipping of goods with batteries. https://www.dhl.com/discover/en-global/logistics-advice/import-export-advice/how-to-ship-batteries Best regards Amund Fra: Brian Gregory Sendt: 22. januar 2025 05:03 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Lithium battery [ in equipment ] Requirements, Reply 1 Hi Jim, Yes, we're getting UL approval for the product, but these cells are too small to qualify for UL 1642, and we kind of need to know (about packaging, labeling) before UL will have time to Opine. We're pinging the battery vendor for UN 38.3 testing, just to be sure. The quote was quite respectable. Brian ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Lithium battery [ in equipment ] Requirements Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 18:31:56 -0500 Brian, if you will be getting a NRTL on the final product the agency will require the batteries to have a 3rd party test report regardless of any regulation requirements. It’s highly likely the battery company already has a third part test report available. Just ask them for it. Jim Bacher, WB8VSU <mailto:j.bacher%40ieee.org> j.bac...@ieee.org or ja.bac...@outlook.com <mailto:ja.bac...@outlook.com> JBRC Consulting LLC Product EMC & Regulatory Consultant <https://trc.guru/> https://www.trc.guru/ email: <mailto:jim%40trc.guru> j...@trc.guru IEEE Life Senior Member From: Brian Gregory <brian_greg...@netzero.net <mailto:brian_greg...@netzero.net> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 3:30 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] Lithium battery [ in equipment ] Requirements Hello Colleagues, We're packing two AA-sized (12 W-hr) Li-On batteries in our latest EV Charger for brains backup. Industrial partners have been flagging certain regulations (we have some very large, very conservative partners). The charger is for N. American residential applications, perhaps Mexico in the near future. Summarizing my findings after review of CFR Title 49, � 173.185 for shipping of hazardous materials. 1. 173.185, (a)(1) - all batteries must be proven proven to meet the criteria in, sub-section 38.3 of the UN Manual of Tests and Criteria (rev. 3, Amm 1). https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/danger/publi/manual/Manual%20Rev5%20Section%2038-3.pdf 2. 173.185, (c)(1) Size limit exception - applies to “smaller” batteries where Watt-hour (Wh) rating may not exceed 20 Wh 3. 173.185, (c)(4) - air shipment packaging (and/or waybill) must be marked with the appropriate label/sticker and marked “UN 3481” ”[Lithium ion cells packaged in equipment] 4. The charger will comply with 173.185, (b) “Packaging” requirements by virtue of the cells being mounted on a PCB, which is in a metal enclosure. Here are my questions for any in the know: - per items 2. and 4., the charger itself does not need the Li-On label. - even given #2, it's a good idea to have the manufacturer test/certify their cells to 38.3, but is it required? thanks, and hope to see you at ISPCE in May! Colorado Brian _____ This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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