Hi all,
ChatGPT is just joining of words and characters using model called transformer
that may sometimes, sound reasonable to human.
AI is certainly cannot replacing human after all human is much more intelligent
with wisdom too.AI don't have wisdom, feeling and etc. Thus, human cannot be
replace regardless.
Regards, Vincent
On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 02:31:09 AM GMT+8, Ralph McDiarmid
<[email protected]> wrote:
I would add that about 9 out of 10 power engineers I’ve worked with over the
years are equally confused with the “convention” of power factor and sign
convention of real and reactive power flow. Microelectronics engineers also
often get the sign convention wrong when considering current source or sink
from a logic gate or an op-amp. I wouldn’t beat up on ChatGPT for struggling
with that very specific topic.
Ralph
From: Brian Gregory <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] AI & Regulatory Compliance
Chat GPT is essentially a BS generator. A very smart friend, a very successful
entrepreneur, finds it quite useful for writing add copy, which I think proved
my point.
The one time I tried challenging GPT with a question on power factor with
generator convention (where positive power generation is represented as
negative), it failed miserably.
Echoing Dan's point; what other AI's are more suitable to electrical
engineering concepts, including testing and reviewing lists of standards? If I
had to pick one question for an AI I think might qualify would be: " does this
requirement apply to a residential unit? "
Colorado Brian
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From: Dan Roman <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] AI & Regulatory Compliance
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 22:21:26 -0400
Has anyone tried feeding a standard or set of standards, into Chat GPT for
example, and ask it product construction or testing questions? I've seen demos
of Chat GPT digesting complex equipment manuals and being able to generate what
amounts to a quick start guide and answer questions about operating or
servicing the equipment. I can't try this with the free version.
--
Dan Roman
[email protected]
On Oct 9, 2023, at 7:31 PM, Douglas Powell <[email protected]> wrote:
I've done some playing around with ChatGPT, Claude.AI, Perplexity.AI, BIng
Chatbot, and a few others.
My first test was to see if these Large Language Models (LLM) could accurately
answer questions where I feel I have good expertise, such as "How do I select a
complete list of safety-critical components using UL XYZ?" or "Write a
comprehensive Test Protocol for a ____ kitchen appliance using IEC
60335-*X-X." For the most part they failed in several points when the questions
got just a little technical. Sometimes, I would challenge the AI on answers it
gave, and occasionally it would backpedal.
Even so, I do find them useful as a starting point for writing White Papers and
PowerPoint slides or procedural documents at the paragraph-level, for internal
distribution. Try prompting an AI to generate 20 PowerPoint slides for basic
Risk Assessment Training using ISO 31000. In every case however, I only use AI
to do the initial grunt work and then personally edit everything for accuracy.
So far, my favorite is Perplexity.AI because it gives attribution of sources
for all its answers, second place is possibly Claude.AI. And been using
QuillBot.AI to check grammar and paraphrase complex paragraphs. But when it
comes to life-safety issues, I will always be very careful and check the work.
Incidentally, I've tried a few fun things as a lunchtime diversion. I'll
prompt the AI with something like: "Entropy simply isn’t what it used to be."
or "Schrödinger’s cat walks into a bar. And doesn’t." And of course the AI
never gets the joke.
-Doug
Douglas E Powell
Laporte, Colorado, USA
LinkedIn
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On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:59 PM Regan Arndt <[email protected]> wrote:
Greetings fellow members,
Our industry will not be immune to this new era of AI technology and want to
bring up this topic again to obtain some more insight from the forum into:
"How do you think AI will play a future role in our Regulatory compliance
world?"
I can see some real benefits to this when applying it to a risk assessment, EMC
redesign including change out of critical components, & possibly to help
support engineering judgments in lieu of testing (i.e. temperature modeling),
etc.…though I think we would have to include the usage of AI as one of the
potential risks in the risk assessment. lol
UL touched base on this topic during their UL Innovations summit held in
Fremont, CA yesterday.
I know there is the ISO/IEC DTR 5469 in development, but this appears, I
believe, to only address functional safety of the AI systems in question, and
not addressing AI in normal compliance assessments for products under the
category of laboratory, IT, audio, etc.
Also, is there someone out there that will be speaking to this during the 2024
ISPCE in Chicago next May? Perhaps there should be an IEEE PSES technical
committee created for this?
Side note: Nordcloud puts out a good summary blog on this:
https://nordcloud.com/blog/how-ai-can-help-you-obtain-regulatory-compliance/
There are other AI blogs out there in the ether but more tuned for the
financial sector and other industries….
Looking forward to the discussion.
P.S.
I am now the Chair for the IEEE PSES Risk assessment technical committee and am
looking for any volunteers to join our group. This topic will be one to discuss
soon within our group. Please email me at [email protected] or
[email protected] if you are interested in joining.
Cheers!
Regan Arndt
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