Yes, I did find this topic on the EMC-PSTC archive. And yet it seems to come up over and over.
Best regards, Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA On Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 9:39 AM John Woodgate <[email protected]> wrote: > I seem to remember this subject being extensively discussed about two > years ago. The bans on 'alien' cords are indeed enforced, and some > authorities were extremely unhelpful in finding solutions, e.g. not > allowing products to be shipped without cords, which were added in the > country of destination. Some contributed solutions for specific countries > that were found to work. > On 2023-08-11 15:52, Douglas Powell wrote: > > I believe you are correct. > > Simply shipping the wrong cord types to certain locations is actually > prohibited, and in general, including incorrect types could be viewed as > endorsement of their use in other areas. A thing that should be simple, now > gets complicated. > > On occasion, I've heard manufacturers say things like "*I've heard of > this but have no official knowledge that it's true*", as a way to side > step liability. I'm not certain this is considered a valid argument, should > someone be injured. > > While it's convenient and sometimes cost effective to make shipping kits > more generic, I usually recommend including in BOMs some indicator of the > ISO Alpha-2 or ISO Alpha-3 country code and make kits so the correct > materials are included for the location involved. > > I find that, although seemingly simple, it's very easy to get tripped up > over such matters. I've also had difficulty in the past with multi-language > labeling, i.e. combined language labels. In certain countries people become > offended if the wrong language is on products along side their own > language. In this case I'm thinking of a 4-language label I once used. > > Best regards, Doug > > Douglas E Powell > Laporte, Colorado USA > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 8:27 AM Chas Grasso <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Doug - Wow I had no idea that this issue existed. Thanks for >> bringing it up! >> As I understand that the inclusion of incorrect cords in a package >> spreads the incorrect >> conclusion that ALL of the cords are suitable for use. Did I get that >> right? >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 8:00 AM Douglas Powell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> * This message originated outside of DISH and was sent by: >>> [email protected] <[email protected]> * >>> ------------------------------ >>> All, >>> >>> I was talking with a client recently about shipping line cords to >>> various countries around the world and how some do not allow the incorrect >>> cords within a shipment while others do. Brazil, as far as I know, does not >>> permit incorrect cordage. Argentina, Australia, and China (PRC) are all >>> mutually exclusive. South Africa and India are mutually exclusive. Japan, >>> Taiwan, and the United States are all mutually exclusive. If not >>> prohibited, it is frequently cheaper to include multiple cords rather than >>> create multiple regional SKUs when products are in low-volume production. >>> >>> That said, apparently the China market often likes to use US-style >>> receptacles (types A or B), even though they use 220 V (😬). The US-style >>> plug has better density (twice as many receptacles in the same space as the >>> China receptacle (Type C, or I ?), and with the US receptacles, there are >>> many more aftermarket cable options available. So I suppose that's my >>> question: "Is this usage typical in China?" >>> >>> Of course, the big issue is that the US plug is not rated for the higher >>> voltages, even though historically some people may say it works. I even >>> fouind a website that shows this, >>> https://www.travelchinaguide.com/essential/electricity.htm >>> >>> I believe it is critical for manufacturers to not condone the use of the >>> US plug in this manner, which appears to be common practice. And I usually >>> advise that this type of usage should never be described, recommended, >>> or mentioned in any manuals, brochures, or other written material produced >>> by a company, either externally or internally. If anyone is injured and an >>> investigation reveals agreement with this usage, the company may be held >>> liable. >>> >>> Thoughts?? >>> >>> -Doug >>> >>> >>> Douglas E Powell >>> Laporte, Colorado, USA >>> [email protected] >>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> >>> >>> (UTC-06:00, US-MDT) >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society >>> emc-pstc discussion list. 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