Hi Scott,

At this point, that’s my best guess. There is nothing to say that the UK will 
adopt the new MR, as there is nothing legally binding them to do so.

-- 
Doug Nix
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"The problem with common sense is that it's not too common." - Mark Twain 




> On Jul 13, 2023, at 23:16, Scott Xe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear Doug,
> 
> Thanks for your detailed explanation!  It seems the goods for the UK market 
> do not legally need to change to the new EU MR until an updated regulation 
> replacing the current one (old EU MD) is issued in the UK.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 09:13, Doug Nix <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> Don’t I wish I could. At this point I’d need a well-tuned crystal ball. I 
>> don’t believe that the UK is quite sure where things will go.
>> 
>> Since the UK is no longer a member of the EU, none of the law relating to 
>> the Machinery Regulation (MR) applies. For EU Members, the MR does not need 
>> to be transposed into national law like the directives did. It simply comes 
>> into force, and the members are expected to enforce it as written. But of 
>> for the UK? It’s anybody’s guess. They could stay with the MD since it’s 
>> already transposed into the The Supply of Machinery (Safety) Regulations 
>> 2008, UK SI 2008 No. 1597. They could modify UK SI 2008 No. 1597. They could 
>> lift the entire MR and adopt it as a new UK regulation.
>> 
>> We’ll have to wait and see. As we get closer to the mandatory date they 
>> should start to tell people what they have in mind.
>> 
>> My concern is that the new MR is considerably modernized, including clauses 
>> on AI and cybersecurity, and the former MD Annex IV list is gone, replaced 
>> with a more rational means of identifying dangerous machinery. If the UK 
>> stays with UK SI 2008 No. 1597, then they will be sliding backward compared 
>> to their closest neighbours. On the other hand, if they get a grip and 
>> decide to rejoin the EU as they likely should, then the new MR will come 
>> into force on the day they join.
>> 
>> We shall see. Get your popcorn ready. It’s gonna be a wild ride I think.
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Doug Nix
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> +1 (519) 729-5704
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2023, at 21:04, Scott Xe <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Dear Doug,
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding the UK implementation part in your article, can you elaborate 
>>>> the details of the UK implementation after the end of the transition date 
>>>> of 31/12/2024?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 00:59, <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Doug!
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Doug Nix <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 2:24 AM
>>>>> To: Scott Xe <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Machinery Regulation official version
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are using the EM Machinery Regulation for CE Marking then, yes, of 
>>>>> course it does. See articles 23 and 24 of the regulation.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doug Nix
>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> +1 (519) 729-5704
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 12:45, Scott Xe <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Doug,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks for your brief and useful information!  I wonder if this 
>>>>> regulation still requires a DoC.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>> 
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