Hi Steve, how have you been?

It sounds like the ratings label should have both an input rating, with the 
voltage and maximum allowable total load that the system will see (in either 
amperes or watts), and output ratings for each outlet.

If the outlets are some sort of dedicated connections, then you would only need 
the input rating.

The LOTO breakers are just Listed molded-case circuit breakers that you can 
stick a lock on.

Hope this helps.


Don Gies
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Schneider Electric
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Steve --

Fun questions!

(I am a person with documented tendencies to not take the trouble to go to a 
breaker panel to find and disconnect the correct breaker, so I may be taking a 
different approach here...)

Nameplate
I regard the nameplate as information for the installing electrician on how to 
size the facility breaker and the wiring to the equipment (ceiling panel). So I 
agree with your approach, from what I understand from your description.

Labels and LOTO
I would explore, with your client, any incentives for the user to simply 
disconnect the power cord for a single subsystem from the ceiling panel to work 
on that subsystem, so that the entire system would not have to be taken down 
and restarted. If that seems reasonably foreseeable, you may need additional 
risk mitigations beyond what you propose.

Good to see you at ISPCE, too!

Mike Sherman
Sherman PSC LLC


On 05/15/2023 6:25 PM CDT Steve Brody 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Experts.

First, it was good to see those who were at ISPCE in Dallas.

Back to the question at hand, and a proposed solution.  But I still request ay 
comments/inputs.

I have a client who makes products to their customer's requirements.  The end 
product includes several products, sub-systems, that work together in the end 
product to perform the intended task.

Each of the subsystems has its own power cord that plugs into an outlet in a 
ceiling panel which has an outlet for each of the sub-systems.

Power to the ceiling panel is derived from a single facility panel that has a 
LOTO breaker.

It is my thought that the following should be done:

  *   The system nameplate current rating should be inclusive of all 
sub-systems and system power
  *   that there be a label adjacent to the nameplate indicating that there are 
'x' number of power cords, and that the disconnect for the systems the facility 
panel number
Thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Brody
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