Hi Rick, On 30.11.2013, at 15:07, Rick Frankel <r...@rickster.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 07:54:42AM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> I don't thing the partial ones work - we should just make then >> unchecked in export if there is nothing better. the grey dos not >> convey the right information. > > I agree, but couldn't think of any other way. There are 3 other > unicode options: > > 1. A box with an X (☒ U+2612 BALLOT BOX WITH X) > 2. A bare (unboxed) X (✗ U+2717 BALLOT X) > 3 A bare checkmark (✓ U+2713 CHECK MARK) > > I also found this character: > > U+237B ⍻ not check mark > > If you think one of those would work we could use it instead. No, I don't think any of them does it. > > >> My vote: >> - Unicode characters as default >> - Both active and inactive checkboxes as option for people who want >> them, via a customize variable. >> - Partial checkboxes should be shown as unchecked. > > I will implement the replacement of the ascii characters with the > unicode and the look at the html checkbox options. > > FWIW, there are other issues w/ the active version besides the changes > not being saved -- If you are using hierarchical list or rollups > indicators ([x/y], [x%]), they will not be updated w/o some > javascript. Thank you Rick! - Carsten > > rick >> >> >> On 29.11.2013, at 17:11, Rick Frankel <r...@rickster.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2013-11-28 16:58, Matt Price wrote: >>>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Sebastien Vauban >>>> <sva-n...@mygooglest.com> wrote: >>>> Achim Gratz wrote: >>>> Rick Frankel writes: >>>> For xhtml compatibility, it would need to be 'checked="checked"'. I've >>>> done a quick look at the html dtd, and i does look like input elements >>>> are allowed outside of forms, but i would need to double >>>> check... Also, the fallback to "[-]" for the partially checked state >>>> is a bit inconsistent, perhaps changing background color or other >>>> attributre of the checkbox would be better. >>>> I'd much prefer if you'd be using character entities for that since you >>>> can't do any input on the HTML anyway (WHITE MEDIUM SQUARE, SQUARE WITH >>>> LOWER RIGHT DIAGONAL BLACK and BLACK MEDIUM SQUARE look like good >>>> candidates). That probably makes it UTF-8 only since I don't think >>>> these symbols are defined for plain (X)HTML, so for other encodings >>>> things should probably stay as they are. >>>> FWIW, here's what I do for the HTML export: >>>> In JS: >>>> #+begin_src js >>>> $(function () { >>>> $('li > code:contains("[X]")') >>>> .parent() >>>> .addClass('checked') >>>> .end() >>>> .remove(); >>>> $('li > code:contains("[-]")') >>>> .parent() >>>> .addClass('halfchecked') >>>> .end() >>>> .remove(); >>>> $('li > code:contains("[ ]")') >>>> .parent() >>>> .addClass('unchecked') >>>> .end() >>>> .remove(); >>>> }); >>>> #+end_src >>>> In CSS: >>>> #+begin_src css >>>> li.checked { >>>> list-style-image: url('../images/checked.png'); >>>> } >>>> li.halfchecked { >>>> list-style-image: url('../images/halfchecked.png'); >>>> } >>>> li.unchecked { >>>> list-style-image: url('../images/unchecked.png'); >>>> } >>>> #+end_src >>>> with 3 nice pictures of green V, red X, and blue || (line "pause" on >>>> recorders). >>>> so, I don't know if I'm the only one here who feels this way, but I >>>> would like to be able to export to an HTML file with ACTUAL HECKBOXES >>>> that I cna check off, say on a phone, when I put the milk in the >>>> shopping art, or pack the swim goggles in the vacation bag, or >>>> whatever. Maybe though I should be thinking in terms of some other >>>> export application, remember the milk or something. Am I describing a >>>> different use case than other users here, perhaps? >>> >>> My 3 cents: >>> >>> I don't see that active checkboxes would help since i don't see a use >>> case where you can save the html back with the modified input. The >>> github usecase mentioned in anothre thread requires a bunch of >>> javascript to work (and write-out the modified file). >>> >>> While Sebastien's solution is visually appealing, i don't think >>> requiring image assets is viable for the core exporter (note that it >>> could be done w/o javascript, another dependency i would like to >>> avoid). >>> >>> I've attached an html file which shows the various possible options. My >>> comments: >>> >>> 1. As mentioned above, I don't see active checkboxes as useful >>> since the modified state is transient. >>> 2. I don't really like the disabled checkboxes visually. >>> 3. Either of the other two approaches (the list item style, which >>> parallels Sebastien's approach w/o using images) works for me. >>> Visually I like the list item style solution, but doesn't really >>> make the intent clear. >>> >>> So, my vote is to change the exporter to use the BALLOT BOX and BALLOT >>> BOX WITH CHECK instead of the ascii character currently used and >>> indicate partially checked boxes ([-]) with greyed text. >>> >>> Opinions? >>> >>> rick >>> >>> <checkbox.html>