Hi Leo not suggesting anything... just exploring alternatives. I too have a lot of UTF-8 in my documents and pdf-latex chokes at them, too. I'm not using preview -have never been- because my field of research didn't need complex math in my papers.
Thanks for your feedback :-) /PA On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 16:11, Leo Butler <leo.but...@umanitoba.ca> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10 2025, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paag...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Jürgen writes: > > > >>Am 03.04.25 um 09:37 Uhr schrieb Ihor Radchenko: > >>>> I don't agree. Users who are apparently happy with LuaLaTeX should > >>>> have no problems with pdflatex and UTF8. > >>> If you know an easy and universal way to support UTF8 is pdflatex, > >>> please do share. > >> > >> I am sorry I could not read all the discussion up to here, but you might > >> like to take a look at this discussion that took place on several TUG > >> mailing lists whe TeX Live 2025 was published over the last weeks as to > >> whether to use pdftex, luatex, or xetex as the default engine. It turns > >> out that only luatex is capable of producing accessible pdf, next comes > >> pdftex, "albeit with some restrictions", and xetex falls short of this > >> feature. So most probably only luatex will be used in the long run, as > >> accessibility will be required for most publications, at least for > >> scientific papers. This is not only a ITF-8 issue. I'm surprised TeX > >> Live is said not to work properly out of the box on some Linux > >> distributions, hard to believe it's true. Please check again and report > >> to the appropriate tracker in case it really does not work on your > system. > >> > >> https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2025-March/051258.html > > > >> Regards, > >> Jürgen. > > > > Hi Jürgen, > > > > thanks a lot for the pointers and for sniffing the LaTeX mailing lists. > > There is so much going on, that it is impossible to follow everything. > > > > From the message I gather that accessible documents is the main target > for > > the TeX people (which is more than reasonable) and that speed is only > > secondary. > > > > Now the question seems to be whether latex-preview could "live an > > independent life" with pdflatex at the heart of it's tooling, whereas > > document production could "move on" to use lualatex as the default tool > to > > generate the PDFs. I may be overoptimistic in thinking that pdflatex and > > lualatex have still a long way together, whereas xetex seems to be fading > > away. > > As a result of Karthik's contribution, I have been using pdflatex and > lualatex for preview purposes in the last couple weeks. I use a lot of > utf-8 in my org documents. Pdflatex just cannot compete for typesetting, > even in preview. My feeling is that for modestly complicated snippets, > lualatex is a better choice, despite the slower speed. Having said that, > I do not use a continual previewer like Karthik demonstrated in one of > his screencasts. > > So, my 2¢ is that there is no advantage to the bifurcation that you are > suggesting. > > Leo -- Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Sagen's Paradeiser, write BE! Year 1 of the New Koprocracy
