Hey Marcin,

There are a few options that exist, so I'm going to drop a few ideas in this 
email.

*"Buy A Rooted Phone" Option:*
Why not just get a rooted Android phone with Replicant on it from eBay in the 
first place?

Then, you can use Termux to ssh into a local or cloud VPS file server where 
you're hosting your .org files. Most people even use Dropbox (or SyncThing, 
whatever floats your boat).

Worst case scenario, you can maybe just run a terminal version of Emacs on the 
rooted Android phone (or even your current non-rooted phone), and clock in like 
that.

If you're on iOS though... well... maybe its time to get out of the walled 
garden?
*
*
*"Just Use A Laptop" Option:*
I'd say maybe just get a laptop, put some decent Linux distro on it, and use 
Emacs on that instead.

Worst case scenario, you can maybe just run a terminal version of Emacs on the 
rooted Android phone, and clock in like that.

*Bash Script Approach:*
The only other thing I could think of is to do this via an easy Bash prompt to 
find the same files on the ssh machine. This might be preposterous to those on 
the list that might want to use Elisp for everything, but maybe its on a device 
where a Linux Bash terminal just is present by default.

*"Just Log The Time Later" Approach:*
You could always even just make org capture templates to estimate time later 
too.

*Summed Up:*
The most sane approach in my opinion, is just use a computer that can normally 
just use Emacs as-is. 

Then again, this is coming from someone who respects the "Getting Things Done" 
method a ton, but doesn't clock in every single personal task, because I think 
its really unnecessary and tedious. I think this kind of clocking ideas are 
better suited for work based todo lists if you're trying to get things done for 
work or something.

I've seen the Android apps for Emacs Org Mode demo'd on YouTube, and it looks 
clunky. Its nice for what it is, but yeah, I think Emacs overall is just better 
suited for a laptop or desktop computer since you really need to just use a 
keyboard to pull off most of the magic.

Good luck with this though,

Sam

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> 
> On 2021-11-24, at 15:30, Daniel Baker <bakerd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Oops.  I'm sorry, I forgot to include the link. That would be for orgzly.
> >
> > https://github.com/orgzly/orgzly-android/pull/691
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Although, after some thinking, I'm a bit afraid of using this, for the
> simple reason: I don't consider data on my phone "safe" (it's much
> easier to lose a phone than a computer - or to have it stolen), so I'd
> prefer not to put my Org files there...
> 
> I think I have an idea for a solution - but thanks anyway!
> 
> Best,
> 
> -- 
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://mbork.pl
> 
> 

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