Hi, Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
> We introduced a new expansion mechanism, recently bound to `C-c C-,'. > This mechanism is more in line with usual Org functions: it operates on > regions like, say, `org-insert-drawer'. It is an obvious default > expansion mechanism. > > If the big menu, we could however improve it with an "expert" UI, like > we already do for export and tags. Aside: At the moment key combinations are generated on the go (unless someone it was changed), so a full "expert-mode a la the export dispatcher" would likely not work. Of course, org-mks could be made nicer, as is obvious when compared to the export dispatcher. > Now, some users are used to "<s" constructs, and are not willing to > switch to that expansion mechanism. Fair enough. I first suggested to > use Yasnippets, which is powerful enough and easy to use. Some users > still didn't want to use that. Well. I suggested Tempo, but, admittedly, > out of the box, it is not really usable. Then Rasmus wrote Org Tempo. > > Even though Org Tempo is probably useful for a part of users, it is yet > another occurrence of NIH in Org mode. Instead of using already > available, and fitting, libraries for a task, we implement one. FWIW, I strongly disagree that Yasnippet is a suitable replacement. IMO it’s not at all intuitive. Why is using tempo NIH? > Also, it will probably prevent the default expansion mechanism to > receive feedback, and therefore, improvements (even though it is better > for basic uses) because users will not even notice the new mechanism if > the old one works out of the box. > IMO, Org Tempo should live outside of Org core, like many other > Org-related libraries. I disagree. > Some die-hard "<s" users might be annoyed if they > had to install an external library. So asking for a "(require > 'org-tempo)" was an acceptable compromise, until your disagreement. FWIW, I am indifferent to whether org-tempo is loaded by default or not as long as it’s included by default and documented in the manual. Rasmus -- May contains speling mistake
