On 29 September 2016 at 17:36, Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote: > I think "grandparent" is correct. In the following document > > * H1 > ** H2 > Text<--point > > "H2" is the parent headline of "Text" and as a consequence, "H1" is its > grandparent. What if point is in the headline, which is often the case? Besides the docstring is inconsistent: With two universal prefix arguments, insert the heading at the end of the grandparent subtree. For example, if point is within a 2nd-level heading, then it will insert a 2nd-level heading at the end of the 1st-level parent heading.
In the first sentence it says "grandparent subtree", whereas in the second sentence it says "parent heading". And the manual says "parent": Calling this command with `C-u C-u' will unconditionally respect the headline's content and create a new item at the end of the parent subtree. Perhaps uniformity of terminology would help here. > You are right, M-RET and C-RET are confusing, and making C-u M-RET > a duplicate of C-RET is wasting some important keybinding. This was > discussed on this ML already (with Rasmus) but led nowhere so far. > > In any case, it is more future-proof to not insist on the fact that > C-RET is C-u M-RET. I think that, whether we describe both behaviors separately or tell the user that C-RET is equivalent to C-u M-RET, the commitment (to not change the behavior) is the same. But if you still think that describing both separately is more future-proof, I won't argue. But I still ask you to look at the other points I made about that manual section: that it doesn't adequately explain the effect of C-u M-RET, and that the description of C-RET is actually wrong. > Thank you for this tedious, yet very important work. Thank you very much for working on Org! -- • I am Brazilian. I hope my English is correct and I welcome corrections. • Please adopt free formats like PDF, ODF, Org, LaTeX, Opus, WebM and 7z. • Free (as in free speech) software for Android: https://f-droid.org/