On Apr 11, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Jose Robins wrote:
Hi Ben,
Thanks for your detailed response. Your arguments make perfect
sense. Let me try to get into the habit of "scheduling" and putting
"deadlines". It's all a question of learning new habits and sticking
to it.
Actually, for simple agenda items, you don't need to schedule or put a
deadline at all. But you must, in addition to a time, also put a date.
Any of these will do:
* Staff meeting <2008-04-12 Sat 10:00-12:30>
* Staff meeting
<2008-04-12 Sat 10:00-12:30>
* Staff meeting 10:00-12:30 <2008-04-12 Sat>
* Staff meeting 10:00-12:30
<2008-04-12 Sat>
Regards,
Jose
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jose,
I'm also still very much a rookie, in GTD and in org-mode. But I'd
argue against added one more way to add something to the agenda
time grid. Things show up in the time grid if
1) you use C-c C-s (adds SCHEDULED: property to headline)
2) you use C-c C-d (adds DEADLINE: property to headline)
3) you use C-u C-c . (inserts timestamp at point; headline will
show up in agenda)
As a novice, I've come to the belief that these multiple ways of
'scheduling' (I mean only that a line of text is added to the
agenda) have grown organically from org-mode's past, by not
dropping an older, simpler way, but adding a new mechanism for a
specific type of time-management problem. Each one has its own
small differences in how it interacts with other features of org-
mode to support the specific issue it addresses (deadlines show up
in red, e.g.)
I offer the following thoughts quite humbly, knowing that I'm
likely among the least effective time-manager and org-mode user on
this list.
In response to your concerns
a) no need to type extra characters
response: perhaps you could try the commands listed above. You only
need to type the time-range, and org-mode fills in the rest
b) no need to clutter up with the date
response: SCHEDULED and DEADLINE properties can be folded under the
headline (in fact, they can be put into the PROPERTY drawer, if
you'd really like to hide them. And there's no extra date verbage
in the time grid (and I think there is a customization for removing
the word 'Scheduled' if you don't like it, but I haven't decided to
dislike it *that* much. It's the default and I trust it's there
for a good reason)
c) if I miss it today, it'll show up tomorrow
response: So if you've missed washing the dog today at 9:56, why
should that task be automatically rescheduled for tomorrow *at the
exact same time*. If missing the appointed time and date doesn't
prevent you from doing that task, then perhaps you could make it a
TODO item that shows up on the global todo list instead. If you
actually did the task, but didn't get around to changing your
headline, then it's there for you to deal with inappropriately.
Oh, and if you have a normal date+timestamp, then you find the
headline and hit S-<right> to move the day forward by one, so the
manual rescheduling isn't hard either. So if you glance at
yesterday's agenda, and see something in the wrong place, it's easy
to move forward. This works in the agenda, in the org-mode buffer,
and you only need to get point somewhere inside or next to the
timestamp (I use C-u C-u <arrow> alot, which isn't very precise, so
I appreciate that I don't have to get the point to a specific
character)
I hope you like key-board shortcuts (or you're going to go crazy
with emacs, much less org-mode!)
Respectfully yours,
Ben
On 2008-04-10 Thu, at 16:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:09:21 -0700
From: Jose Robins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Agenda view for logging?
To: "Joel J. Adamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
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Joel J. Adamson wrote:
Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Jose, Manish
I don't really think that it would be reasonable to make any entry
that contains a string that looks like a time show up in the
agenda.
I think I missed part of this conversation. If I put
** Wash the dog <2008-04-10 09:56 >
in one of my org-agenda-files, it shows up at 9:56 in the agenda
time-grid. Is this not the intended behavior?
Joel
Yes, that is intended behavior and it works fine. The question was
whether a time range without a time-stamp would work as well.
something
like...
** 9:55 am - 10:15 am wash the dog
- would put this task in "today's" agenda view.
I see Carsten's point about not wanting to recognize any
arbitrary text
string which looks like a time to be considered a
"time-of-specification". A possible compromise is to have a string
which
looks like "<10:15-10:30> " to be considered as a task for today
which
appears @ the appropriate time in the agenda view. The beauty is
that
(a) you avoid having to type in extra keystrokes to schedule it,
(b) no
need to clutter with an additional date and (c) if it doesn't get
done
or something, when I do the agenda view tomorrow, it shows up
there as
well and it doesn't get lost.
Of course, I may be asking for things that may have other negative
implications, since after all, I'm still a rookie with org mode
(still
wet behind the ears) and maybe there are better approaches to
this. :-)
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