On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 08:55:37AM -0800, Daniel M German wrote: > I am moving this back to org, since I suspect they will be interested people.
Good idea. > Bastien> Hhmm... yes, this is what I expected. Daniel, is the physical > keyboard > Bastien> something that you miss? How are you dealing with Emacs key chords? > > I can't miss what I have never had ;) The stylus is ok with Ctrl > sequences, they just need one extra tap. Unfortunately xterm is broken > in OS2007 (control-_ is impossible) but I fixed it. In OS2008 it is > difficult to issue Ctrl- commands (they require an extra tap). I might > look into this once i fully move to 2008. So I guess that out of the > box, a phyical keyboard might make a difference, if it supports > <Ctrl>. It does. I haven't figured out how to get <Meta> or <Esc> on it yet, but xmodmap is available so it should be possible. > With respect to the virtual keyboard, it lacks <Ctrl>, <Alt> and > <Meta>. But a physical key can provide ESC. This is the reason I run > emacs inside an XTerm (emacs -nw). The Xterm can provide me a shortcut > to <ctrl>: I tap it, then next key I tap is read as <ctrl-key>. The > disadvantage is that is no "mouse" support (the stylus can be used as > a pointer). Ah, drat :-( I didn't think of that. Of course, org-mouse.el won't work with emacs-nox. But judging by your org-mode screenshot http://turingmachine.org/~dmg/temp/emacsOrgN800full.jpg you seem to know how to configure the xterm application to feed more complex macros such as C-x. How did you set this up and is it documented anywhere? > Now, OS2008 can work in host-mode (I have tested it myself). This > means you can attach any external keyboard. Some people have luck with > the apple bluetooth keyboard. I own a bluetooth IPaq keyboard (but I > haven't been able to connect it to it under OS 2008). So when I really > need to use emacs, I can always connect a real keyboard. Not ideal for > standing up, but way more practical than a virtual keyboard when > sitting. Yes, I guess even one of those virtual laser keyboards would be possible. > Bastien> Sorry to ask so insistently, but I *can't* test the N800 > Bastien> until I make up my mind on this :( And chosing the N810 > Bastien> instead means that I'll have to wait for another two > Bastien> weeks... > > Well, it depends on how much money you are willing to spend. The N800 > is around 150-250 dollars cheaper than the N810. I personally don't > see a reason to upgrade. But this is mainly because I always have a > laptop with me. Yep - most N800 users seem to agree it is a lot to ask for an upgrade, but buying from scratch I think it's easier to justify. > Bastien> (There are many other factors. For example, how many softwares are > Bastien> available for 0S2008, compared to 0S2007? Is it worth waiting for > Bastien> an AZERTY physical keyboard? etc, etc...) > > This is why I dual boot. Some applications I use regularly haven't > made it to OS2008. So it's not possible to install OS2007 libraries on OS2008? > What we need is to compile emacs23 and see if works well with a > physical and stylus keyboard. Amen! That sounds like a very interesting project. _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
