The receive part of the penalty, from a lossy antenna, only applies if the dominant noise source is after the point of attenuation. That's not generally true at HF.

(I wonder if, at microwave frequencies, it is possible to use circulators and isolators to put passive losses in on only the transmit path.)

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David Woolley

On 14/01/2024 05:16, Ken WA8JXM wrote:
Unless its something like a log periodic, I think anything with those frequency/SWR specs can only do it with high resistive losses.  It reminds me of the HF dipole B&W makes for the military: it is designed to appear to have a low SWR by having 3 db of  resistive losses.  The military considered that an acceptable design.   Remember, antenna losses affect TX and  RX, so that's 6 db system loss.

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