We're just a bit west of the approach to KRNO 17R.  A/C normally land south and I can just barely discern doppler spreading on 40 m on the P3 at 4 kHz span.  Last winter when there was FTx on 10, the spreading was more pronounced.  I guess Christian Andreas Doppler would tell me ... "Duh!"

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Jim Brown wrote on 7/23/2023 7:45 PM:
Andy,

My observations here are consistent with yours -- I regularly see Doppler on either side of a signal, sometimes even both sides, which would be consistent with multiple aircraft. And without Doppler, I always see low level sidebands on locals that are approximately symmetrical with the P3/SVGA cranked to minimum span. Last season, Trey and I were seeing a neighbor being much wider than normal. Trey went to his shack to help him figure it out while I watched on the P3. It was coming from his Expert amp, and we managed a modest improvement. If I'm remembering correctly, he was running the amp on the low voltage setting.

73, Jim K9YC

 On 7/23/2023 6:30 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:
The aircraft that can be expected to cause Doppler shifted reflection in the Phoenix Class B airspace are transport aircraft following Standard Instrument Departures (SID) and Standard Terminal Arrival Route (STAR) routings.   My QTH is about a mile from a KPHX STAR (BRUSR ONE).  On a busy day with winds out of the East they go by at about one per minute.  As they approach from the North I would expect reflections with a higher frequency.  After they pass and move to the South I would expect  reflections with a lower frequency. With multiple aircraft following  the same route I would expect a mix of reflected signal frequencies spread on each side of the transmitted signal frequency.


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