Hello educators,

Just pinging this again, as so far only Liang & I endorsed the Program &
Events Dashboard wish that Sage opened on the community wishlist.

It's highly important that there is a wider support for it, as the
developers will give it more attention, so please go to this link
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/Programs_and_events>and
add your endorsement. It'll take you less than a minute and it'll make all
of our lives so much easier.. :)

Cheers,
Shani.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Amanda Bittaker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much
>> more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
>
>
> Excellent reminder, and thanks for starting the proposal Sage!   My team's
> biggest push was getting the Dashboard usable for any Wikimedia project in
> any language, and now we are working on campaigns, but there is still a ton
> that could be done for education and other programs.  The WMF currently
> does not have any plans to dedicate Engineering time to further features.
> Refining and supporting this proposal could make the difference.
>
> Cheers,
> Amanda
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Sage Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Vojtěch!
>>
>> On a related note, I started a proposal in the new Community Wishlist
>> Survey for making the dashboard good enough for education programs to
>> be a viable replacement for the EducationProgram extension:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Surv
>> ey/Categories/Programs_and_events
>>
>> The current state of things is that the Community Tech team is working
>> on the use case of edit-a-thon campaigns right now. Amanda and the
>> Community Tech team have discussed the education program as a key use
>> case for the future, but there aren't currently definite plans to
>> prioritize that.
>>
>> The work so far has been done on behalf of the Learning & Engagement
>> team that is Amanda is part of. But the main focus of the Community
>> Tech team is to work on community-identified projects from the
>> wishlist survey. Feel free to edit the proposal I started. If
>> dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's
>> much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
>>
>> -Sage
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Shani <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Thanks for the update, Vojtěch!
>> > I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin
>> to
>> > work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my academic courses.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Shani.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Vojtěch,
>> >>
>> >> I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started
>> >> laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education
>> >> Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good
>> >> Swedish name for it before launching.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Sara
>> >>
>> >> 2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál <[email protected]
>> >:
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear collab-orators,
>> >>>
>> >>> since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the
>> >>> Program&Events Dashboard which is, at some point, likely to replace
>> the
>> >>> outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave
>> me a
>> >>> guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an
>> opportunity to
>> >>> ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the
>> >>> developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going
>> the
>> >>> right direction.
>> >>>
>> >>> Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large
>> country
>> >>> programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a
>> lack of
>> >>> reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let
>> me give
>> >>> you an update what it does:
>> >>>
>> >>> Is is an open system letting anyone with a Wikipedia account log in
>> and
>> >>> create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights
>> except for
>> >>> developer access
>> >>>
>> >>> advantage: no barriers,
>> >>> disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
>> >>>
>> >>> When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course
>> page so
>> >>> that participants can log in. Students need to fill in a "password" -
>> this
>> >>> can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private
>> >>>
>> >>> advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only
>> >>> disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they
>> want
>> >>> to enrol in the course
>> >>>
>> >>> you can create a course by cloning one of your past course pages (not
>> >>> someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course
>> page
>> >>> set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language".
>> >>>
>> >>> there is probably no way to add "templates" to course pages. For
>> example,
>> >>> each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to
>> >>> guidelines, helpdesk etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> you can edit the course page if you are the creator or the creator has
>> >>> assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
>> >>>
>> >>> advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship
>> or
>> >>> knowledge about the project
>> >>> disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local
>> >>> coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help
>> them
>> >>> design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails
>> saying
>> >>> "Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?"
>> >>>
>> >>> creating campaigns (groups of courses) is not available yet. It is not
>> >>> sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is
>> crucial to
>> >>> large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects.
>> >>>
>> >>> advantage: you can include some information or links or training
>> material
>> >>> to the individual course pages
>> >>> disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will
>> lead to
>> >>> a mess
>> >>>
>> >>> Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months!
>> >>> Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning
>> to do.
>> >>> But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely
>> to use
>> >>> it on a large scale.
>> >>>
>> >>> For more information please see this page. You can give feedback on
>> the
>> >>> discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers
>> who are
>> >>> eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to
>> >>> Amanda.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also I think we need to think about the name of the dashboard more...
>> I
>> >>> cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type
>> >>> http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ - we should make a shortened
>> version
>> >>> too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without
>> knowledge of
>> >>> English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here, without any comments
>> for
>> >>> two months now.
>> >>>
>> >>> I understand there will be some announcements coming from the
>> Community
>> >>> Tech team in near future.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think this would be also useful to the
>> [email protected]
>> >>> people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for
>> >>> months on that mailing list!
>> >>>
>> >>> best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Vojtěch Dostál
>> >>>
>> >>> předseda rady / chair of the board
>> >>> Wikimedia Česká republika | http://www.wikimedia.cz
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>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Med vänliga hälsningar,
>> >> Sara Mörtsell
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sara Mörtsell | Education Manager, Wikimedia Sverige
>> >> [email protected] | +4673-383 26 70
>> >>
>> >> Stöd fri kunskap genom att bli medlem!
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