Hello Ecolog-ers

This email thread seemed relevant to my own experiences and after skimming
through to see some depressing responses sprinkled with some overly
dramatic pessimism and discouragement, I thought I would give my own take
on this.

I'm a 4th year PhD student working on a research/conservation project in
tropical forest/farmland ecosystems in the Dominican Republic. I have been
in and out of Latin America for field work on different projects since 2012
when I was just an undergraduate. Since I was about 16 years old, I had
myself convinced that I would make my career as a scientist working in
conservation of tropical ecosystems and their flora/fauna. I did a
Bio/Spanish double major at my college. So, I was not only focused on
ecology, but also Latin American culture and I came out already having
studied and practiced Spanish language for about 8 years.  Out of college,
I applied for LOTS of jobs, not just tropical stuff. Over 90% of those
applications, even to volunteer stuff, ended in rejection.  I ended up
doing two volunteer positions, each for 3-6 months. Those gigs did not
charge a fee, you pretty much just had to get yourself there and then most
things were covered. I didn't have too much college debt, and I had saved
up enough money from my summer jobs to make this happen. Soon after, I got
a paid job in the tropics doing forest censuses. It wasn't much, but it
covered airfare and a modest stipend. I did a couple of jobs in the US too
that paid before starting my program.

Currently, I have fairly solid grant funding for my research project, not
from my advisor nor hardly from my university, but as a result of having,
myself, developed and submitted over 30 grant proposals to
organizations/agencies of all kinds. Through these funds and plenty of
collaboration with local partners, I have been able to keep some sort of
field work and data collection going for over 24 months mostly
uninterrupted. Some of these grants have even made it possible for me to
hire/contract field assistants. I've had 3 Dominican techs and 5 assistants
from outside the country (mostly Americans). A lot of grants available to
graduate students explicitly prohibit you using those funds on personnel...
often it's limited to equipment expenses, lab expenses, transportation, or
other consumables. Some of my pools of grant money have been fairly
flexible, in that I have been able to use them to support my field crews.
One of my main funders is oriented toward conservation research in
developing countries, and they are *thrilled* to see that money spent on
developing young homegrown (in this case Dominican) professionals to the
extent to where I have been able to offer all expenses covered and
compensation for these people. This is not the case for Americans, but I
have been able to justify limited funding to cover almost all basic costs
for American volunteers since qualified, serious candidates who are up for
intensive field seasons are difficult to come by in this region.
Additionally, there have been times where I simply could not work within my
budget if I had two paid people instead of one paid and one volunteer.

>From my perspective on people from relatively prosperous countries trying
to do work in developing countries -- a perspective limited to working with
entry-level ecologists (e.g. college undergrads or recent grads) interested
in getting their feet wet in tropical ecology --  paying these people is
difficult to justify. Sure, outside institutions and researchers like
myself can (hopefully) do great work and make a real difference in advance
the conservation/research agenda. But the reality is the best way to
sustained progress is when things grow within local communities.
Unfortunately, that growth is being set back in many cases by political and
economic priorities that don't align with that growth. So, international
collaboration is crucial. Having been in the position of a volunteer, even
fluent in the local language and having a fairly strong background in
science outdoors, I recognize that none of my previous education and
training really mattered that much. I was not necessarily a
skilled/essential asset on any field crew in the beginning. At the entry
level, I firmly believe, that you can train just about anyone with good
attention to detail and work ethic to be a good field ecologist. It does
not make sense to spend time, effort, and resources training such a person
when the world would be much better off training local people... with which
you have less unnecessary expenditures for relocating people and a greater
possibility that they will continue on that path. Furthermore, there
definitely is a healthy chunk of applicants out there that are not really
all that committed to the the work, but rather are just looking for a cool
experience or maybe one that will separate them from others in future job
applications. You could argue, they damage the image of people who really
are brimming with passion. Having said all that... I believe creating a
business model (even a non-profit operation) around charging volunteers
fees and whatnot is just plain nonsense to me. If the work is important
enough, you should be able to find at least *some* money for it. And if you
can't find enough to sustain that project, other avenues need to be
explored. That is... reducing costs or scale of the work, finding
collaborators who can help support you, or getting yourself a different
occupation. The ability and willingness to write grant proposals cannot be
understated. Maybe someone out there could provide a rational defense for
the volunteer fees thing, but I just can't see it.

I don't necessarily expect that when my PhD is done that I'll get a paid
job working in the tropics. My experience has been that when the path is
not clear to where you want to get to, you have to cut one for yourself. I
can remain hopeful that my work ethic, track record, and growing expertise
will afford me the opportunity to stay involved and develop other projects
in the future. If I'm really productive and with enough luck, maybe some
day I could get a faculty position where I could command a more powerful
platform from which to bring in funding for graduate students or local
NGO's. That's obviously a very narrow trajectory, but it's a start. I'm
convince there are lots of other ways keep at it, it's just a matter of
identifying them. I have gotten as far as I have by doing my best to
network and cast a wide net with the work that I want to do and the
projects I want to develop. Based on my limited experience, I think a
career in ecology/conservation is all about opportunism. Find out what
you're good at, leverage it, figure out how to spot opportunities, and be
prepared to make sacrifices to get there if it's what you really want. In
any case, this line of work is definitely extremely demanding and not very
financially prosperous. Starting out getting paid nothing or next to
nothing is just the way it is apparently.

That's my piece. Hope it is worth something to someone.


On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:32 PM, Jason Hernandez <
jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Now that the academic year has ended, the big wave of seasonal field jobs
> has abated, as have the inevitable posts by graduating students hoping to
> find one. And I have to admit, I have gotten a little jaded. I put myself
> in the shoes of one of those young people...
>
> ...Tropical rainforests have had a lot of exposure for many years now, it
> is no surprise when a young person is inspired to pursue a career in
> conservation, with hopes of making a difference in the tropics. But as you
> search for opportunities, what do you find? Every opportunity in a tropical
> environment is a volunteer position or an unpaid internship. Some cover
> your expenses; some expect you to cover your own airfare; some even charge
> you a fee. But, you rationalize, it's an investment in your future; you
> will gain a new skill set and valuable experience for your resume, make
> contacts in the conservation world for your network.. So you take the
> unpaid job. You have a wonderful experience, you learn a lot. But then you
> begin to notice that every season, it is the same. Every position in the
> tropics is unpaid. If you were an organization with limited resources, why
> would you pay someone when there is a steady stream of idealistic young
> people eager to work for free? As the young person, how many of these
> unpaid jobs can you afford before you have to give up and go mitigate
> wetlands for a strip mall developer, or count dead bats on a wind farm?
>
> It can't possibly be that way for everyone. I am interested in the stories
> of young people who succeeded in pursuing this dream sustainably. How did
> you make it happen?
>
> Jason Hernandez
>



-- 
Spencer C. Schubert
Ph.D. Student
Department of Biological Sciences
Old Dominion University
Norfolk, VA 23529-0266
Cell #: 1-815-222-9551 (USA)
Cell #: 1-829-808-1269 (República Dominicana)

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